From @cpansprout

Without running it, can you tell me what the output is?

#!perl -l
sub TIESCALAR{bless[]}
sub FETCH { --$| ? *foo : "bar" }
tie $x, "";
"$x";
print *{\$x};

And what *should* the output be?

I think the current behaviour is a bug, even if it’s unfixable.

Flags​:
  category=core
  severity=low

Site configuration information for perl 5.13.4​:

Configured by sprout at Fri Aug 20 23​:24​:53 PDT 2010.

Summary of my perl5 (revision 5 version 13 subversion 4 patch v5.13.4-16-g16c9153) configuration​:
  Snapshot of​: 9b47cdd
  Platform​:
  osname=darwin, osvers=10.4.0, archname=darwin-2level
  uname='darwin pint.local 10.4.0 darwin kernel version 10.4.0​: fri apr 23 18​:28​:53 pdt 2010; root​:xnu-1504.7.4~1release_i386 i386 '
  config_args='-de -Dusedevel'
  hint=recommended, useposix=true, d_sigaction=define
  useithreads=undef, usemultiplicity=undef
  useperlio=define, d_sfio=undef, uselargefiles=define, usesocks=undef
  use64bitint=undef, use64bitall=undef, uselongdouble=undef
  usemymalloc=n, bincompat5005=undef
  Compiler​:
  cc='cc', ccflags ='-fno-common -DPERL_DARWIN -no-cpp-precomp -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fstack-protector -I/usr/local/include',
  optimize='-O3',
  cppflags='-no-cpp-precomp -fno-common -DPERL_DARWIN -no-cpp-precomp -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fstack-protector -I/usr/local/include'
  ccversion='', gccversion='4.2.1 (Apple Inc. build 5664)', gccosandvers=''
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  d_longlong=define, longlongsize=8, d_longdbl=define, longdblsize=16
  ivtype='long', ivsize=4, nvtype='double', nvsize=8, Off_t='off_t', lseeksize=8
  alignbytes=8, prototype=define
  Linker and Libraries​:
  ld='env MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET=10.3 cc', ldflags =' -fstack-protector -L/usr/local/lib'
  libpth=/usr/local/lib /usr/lib
  libs=-ldbm -ldl -lm -lutil -lc
  perllibs=-ldl -lm -lutil -lc
  libc=/usr/lib/libc.dylib, so=dylib, useshrplib=false, libperl=libperl.a
  gnulibc_version=''
  Dynamic Linking​:
  dlsrc=dl_dlopen.xs, dlext=bundle, d_dlsymun=undef, ccdlflags=' '
  cccdlflags=' ', lddlflags=' -bundle -undefined dynamic_lookup -L/usr/local/lib -fstack-protector'

Locally applied patches​:
 

@​INC for perl 5.13.4​:
  /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.13.4/darwin-2level
  /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.13.4
  /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.13.4/darwin-2level
  /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.13.4
  /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl
  .

Environment for perl 5.13.4​:
  DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH (unset)
  HOME=/Users/sprout
  LANG=en_US.UTF-8
  LANGUAGE (unset)
  LD_LIBRARY_PATH (unset)
  LOGDIR (unset)
  PATH=/usr/bin​:/bin​:/usr/sbin​:/sbin​:/usr/local/bin​:/usr/X11/bin​:/usr/local/bin
  PERL_BADLANG (unset)
  SHELL=/bin/bash

From @cpansprout

On Sun Aug 29 14​:13​:53 2010, sprout wrote​:

Without running it, can you tell me what the output is?

#!perl -l
sub TIESCALAR{bless[]}
sub FETCH { --$| ? *foo : "bar" }
tie $x, "";
"$x";
print *{\$x};

And what *should* the output be?

I think the current behaviour is a bug, even if it’s unfixable.

This conundrum was resolved by change 2acc331.

@cpansprout - Status changed from 'new' to 'resolved'

From @cpansprout

On Mon Oct 25 14​:54​:17 2010, sprout wrote​:

On Sun Aug 29 14​:13​:53 2010, sprout wrote​:

Without running it, can you tell me what the output is?

#!perl -l
sub TIESCALAR{bless[]}
sub FETCH { --$| ? *foo : "bar" }
tie $x, "";
"$x";
print *{\$x};

And what *should* the output be?

I think the current behaviour is a bug, even if it’s unfixable.

This conundrum was resolved by change 2acc331.

Not quite. I’m re-opening this ticket.

The example above used to print "bar". With change 2acc331, it
started printing *main​::foo. The problem now is that $x is being read
without a ->FETCH call.

I think *{\$x} should call ->FETCH on $x if it is a FAKE glob.

I think it should also call it if $x is not a glob, so the test above
will print *main​::foo if the "$x" line is omitted.

Does this sound right?

From [Unknown Contact. See original ticket]

On Mon Oct 25 14​:54​:17 2010, sprout wrote​:

On Sun Aug 29 14​:13​:53 2010, sprout wrote​:

Without running it, can you tell me what the output is?

#!perl -l
sub TIESCALAR{bless[]}
sub FETCH { --$| ? *foo : "bar" }
tie $x, "";
"$x";
print *{\$x};

And what *should* the output be?

I think the current behaviour is a bug, even if it’s unfixable.

This conundrum was resolved by change 2acc331.

Not quite. I’m re-opening this ticket.

The example above used to print "bar". With change 2acc331, it
started printing *main​::foo. The problem now is that $x is being read
without a ->FETCH call.

I think *{\$x} should call ->FETCH on $x if it is a FAKE glob.

I think it should also call it if $x is not a glob, so the test above
will print *main​::foo if the "$x" line is omitted.

Does this sound right?

@cpansprout - Status changed from 'resolved' to 'open'