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perlintro: "Comments start with a hash symbol" #7859

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p5pRT opened this issue Mar 31, 2005 · 20 comments
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perlintro: "Comments start with a hash symbol" #7859

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p5pRT commented Mar 31, 2005

Migrated from rt.perl.org#34632 (status was 'resolved')

Searchable as RT34632$

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p5pRT commented Mar 31, 2005

From @jidanni

perlintro​:
  Comments start with a hash symbol...
Ah. The hash symbol, %.

perlsyn avoids jerks like me mailing in, with​:
  Text from a "#" character until the end of the line is a comment

P.S., It seems one must dip into proprietary documentation if one is
to find how to use hashes or whatever to create the following output
$ perl -we ... <<EOF
5a m g
4g k x
5a t c
EOF
4g k x
5a m g t c
Well at least the tree starting at $ man perl does not go into basic
hash operations. Contrast this with gawk, whose documentation is all
there in the gawk manual.

One can read up on hashes of hashes, but not just basic hash
stuff. One must buy a book for that or something.

P.S., perltoc looks funny,
  Precedence Traps
  Precedence, Precedence, Precedence, Precedence, Precedence,
  Precedence, Precedence

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p5pRT commented Mar 31, 2005

From @ysth

On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 08​:40​:35PM -0000, Dan Jacobson wrote​:

perlintro​:
Comments start with a hash symbol...
Ah. The hash symbol, %.

Thanks, that is a little misleaading. I'll try to come up with a patch
unless someone beats me to it.

perlsyn avoids jerks like me mailing in, with​:
Text from a "#" character until the end of the line is a comment

Unfortunately, there isn't a universal name for that character; see
http​://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_sign

I find Unicode's choice unwieldy.

P.S.,

One issue per report works better (but it's too late for this one,
so don't bother).

It seems one must dip into proprietary documentation if one is

to find how to use hashes or whatever to create the following output
$ perl -we ... <<EOF
5a m g
4g k x
5a t c
EOF
4g k x
5a m g t c
Well at least the tree starting at $ man perl does not go into basic
hash operations. Contrast this with gawk, whose documentation is all
there in the gawk manual.

One can read up on hashes of hashes, but not just basic hash
stuff. One must buy a book for that or something.

P.S.,

Ditto.

perltoc looks funny,
Precedence Traps
Precedence, Precedence, Precedence, Precedence, Precedence,
Precedence, Precedence

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p5pRT commented Mar 31, 2005

The RT System itself - Status changed from 'new' to 'open'

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p5pRT commented Mar 31, 2005

From ajs@ajs.com

On Thu, 2005-03-31 at 16​:24, Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote​:

perlsyn avoids jerks like me mailing in, with​:
Text from a "#" character until the end of the line is a comment

Unfortunately, there isn't a universal name for that character; see
http​://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_sign

I have always called that an "octothorpe", but that is almost certainly
an historical mis-pronunciation of octothorne from the middle-part of
the 1960s (even Wikipedia simply arm-waves at the apocryphal origins of
the word).

I would suggest something like​:

  Comments start with a C<#> (this is often called a "hash mark",
  "number sign" or "pound sign"... Perl calls it its comment
  character).

--
Aaron Sherman <ajs@​ajs.com>
Senior Systems Engineer and Toolsmith
"It's the sound of a satellite saying, 'get me down!'" -Shriekback

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p5pRT commented Apr 1, 2005

From @schwern

On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 08​:40​:35PM -0000, Dan Jacobson wrote​:

P.S., It seems one must dip into proprietary documentation if one is
to find how to use hashes or whatever to create the following output
$ perl -we ... <<EOF
5a m g
4g k x
5a t c
EOF
4g k x
5a m g t c

Are you saying $hash{$key} .= $value is not documented? Its in perldata.
Or do you mean push @​{$hash{$key}}, $value. That's in perldsc and perllol.

Well at least the tree starting at $ man perl does not go into basic
hash operations. Contrast this with gawk, whose documentation is all
there in the gawk manual.

Trust me. You don't want all the Perl man pages smashed into one.
The gawk manual is a mere 1500 lines. Just perlrun alone is 1000.

It might be useful to mention something more user friendly like
perldoc.com in the perl man page... if the site was up and kept up to
date.

One can read up on hashes of hashes, but not just basic hash
stuff. One must buy a book for that or something.

? Its right there in perlintro.

  Hashes
  A hash represents a set of key/value pairs​:

  my %fruit_color = ("apple", "red", "banana", "yellow");

  ...etc...

  More complex data types can be constructed using references, which
  allow you to build lists and hashes within lists and hashes.

  ...etc...

And references to where to go for more.

  Scalars, arrays and hashes are documented more fully in perldata.

  ...

  Exhaustive information on the topic of references can be found in perl-
  reftut, perllol, perlref and perldsc.

This is not to say that the shipped Perl tutorials could not use work, by
all means. They suck (but they suck less than they did a few years ago).
But the information is at least there without having to buy a book.

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p5pRT commented Apr 1, 2005

From @schwern

On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 08​:40​:35PM -0000, Dan Jacobson wrote​:

P.S., perltoc looks funny,
Precedence Traps
Precedence, Precedence, Precedence, Precedence, Precedence,
Precedence, Precedence

Yes, this due to the perltrap man page not using terribly descriptive
section headers. That should be fixed. Good catch.

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p5pRT commented Apr 1, 2005

From offer.kaye@gmail.com

On Mar 31, 2005 7​:33 PM, Michael G Schwern wrote​:

It might be useful to mention something more user friendly like
perldoc.com in the perl man page... if the site was up and kept up to
date.

http​://perldoc.perl.org/ is a good alternative.

--
Offer Kaye

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p5pRT commented Apr 1, 2005

From schubiger@cpan.org

On 31 Mar, Michael G Schwern wrote​:

: Yes, this due to the perltrap man page not using terribly descriptive
: section headers. That should be fixed. Good catch.

I'll work out a patch against bleadperl.

Steven Schubiger

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p5pRT commented Apr 1, 2005

From schubiger@cpan.org

On 31 Mar, Michael G Schwern wrote​:

: That should be fixed. Good catch.

Patched everything relevant so far.

Should we keep "Discontinuance C<_>" or should we move over
to "Discontinuance​: C<_>"?

Steven Schubiger

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p5pRT commented Apr 1, 2005

From schubiger@cpan.org

On 31 Mar, Michael G Schwern wrote​:

: It might be useful to mention something more user friendly like
: perldoc.com in the perl man page... if the site was up and kept up to
: date.

Perl 5.8.6 documentation​:
  http​://perldoc.perl.org

Steven Schubiger

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p5pRT commented Apr 1, 2005

From schubiger@cpan.org

On 31 Mar, Michael G Schwern wrote​:
: On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 08​:40​:35PM -0000, Dan Jacobson wrote​:
:> P.S., perltoc looks funny,
:> Precedence Traps
:> Precedence, Precedence, Precedence, Precedence, Precedence,
:> Precedence, Precedence
:
: Yes, this due to the perltrap man page not using terribly descriptive
: section headers. That should be fixed. Good catch.

Inline attached is a patch.

Steven Schubiger

Inline Patch
--- bleadperl/pod/perltrap.pod	Tue Dec 21 13:29:36 2004
+++ perltrap.pod		Fri Apr  1 19:01:44 2005
@@ -418,7 +418,7 @@
 
 =over 4
 
-=item * Discontinuance
+=item * Discontinuance C<_>
 
 Symbols starting with "_" are no longer forced into package main, except
 for C<$_> itself (and C<@_>, etc.).
@@ -432,7 +432,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: $_legacy is 1
     # perl5 prints: $_legacy is
 
-=item * Deprecation
+=item * Deprecation C<::>
 
 Double-colon is now a valid package separator in a variable name.  Thus these
 behave differently in perl4 vs. perl5, because the packages don't exist.
@@ -462,7 +462,7 @@
 
 Also see precedence traps, for parsing C<$:>.
 
-=item * BugFix
+=item * BugFix C<splice()>
 
 The second and third arguments of C<splice()> are now evaluated in scalar
 context (as the Camel says) rather than list context.
@@ -476,7 +476,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: a b
     # perl5 prints: c d e
 
-=item * Discontinuance
+=item * Discontinuance C<goto>
 
 You can't do a C<goto> into a block that is optimized away.  Darn.
 
@@ -490,7 +490,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: Here I is!
     # perl5 errors: Can't "goto" into the middle of a foreach loop
 
-=item * Discontinuance
+=item * Discontinuance whitespace as the name of a variable
 
 It is no longer syntactically legal to use whitespace as the name
 of a variable, or as a delimiter for any kind of quote construct.
@@ -503,7 +503,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: a is foo bar, b is baz
     # perl5 errors: Bareword found where operator expected
 
-=item * Discontinuance
+=item * Discontinuance C<while/if BLOCK BLOCK>
 
 The archaic while/if BLOCK BLOCK syntax is no longer supported.
 
@@ -517,7 +517,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: True!
     # perl5 errors: syntax error at test.pl line 1, near "if {"
 
-=item * BugFix
+=item * BugFix C<**>
 
 The C<**> operator now binds more tightly than unary minus.
 It was documented to work this way before, but didn't.
@@ -527,7 +527,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: 16
     # perl5 prints: -16
 
-=item * Discontinuance
+=item * Discontinuance C<foreach{}>
 
 The meaning of C<foreach{}> has changed slightly when it is iterating over a
 list which is not an array.  This used to assign the list to a
@@ -559,7 +559,7 @@
 happens when you use C<$_> for the loop variable, and call subroutines in
 the loop that don't properly localize C<$_>.)
 
-=item * Discontinuance
+=item * Discontinuance C<split>
 
 C<split> with no arguments now behaves like C<split ' '> (which doesn't
 return an initial null field if $_ starts with whitespace), it used to
@@ -571,7 +571,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: :hi:mom
     # perl5 prints: hi:mom
 
-=item * BugFix
+=item * BugFix B<-e>
 
 Perl 4 would ignore any text which was attached to an B<-e> switch,
 always taking the code snippet from the following arg.  Additionally, it
@@ -588,7 +588,7 @@
     # perl4 prints:
     # perl5 dies: No code specified for -e.
 
-=item * Discontinuance
+=item * Discontinuance return value C<push>
 
 In Perl 4 the return value of C<push> was undocumented, but it was
 actually the last value being pushed onto the target list.  In Perl 5
@@ -601,17 +601,17 @@
     # perl4 prints: second new
     # perl5 prints: 3
 
-=item * Deprecation
+=item * Deprecation error messages
 
 Some error messages will be different.
 
-=item * Discontinuance
+=item * Discontinuance C<split()>
 
 In Perl 4, if in list context the delimiters to the first argument of
 C<split()> were C<??>, the result would be placed in C<@_> as well as
 being returned.   Perl 5 has more respect for your subroutine arguments.
 
-=item * Discontinuance
+=item * Discontinuance bugs
 
 Some bugs may have been inadvertently removed.  :-)
 
@@ -623,7 +623,7 @@
 
 =over 4
 
-=item * Parsing
+=item * Parsing space between . and =
 
 Note the space between . and =
 
@@ -633,7 +633,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: more string
     # perl5 prints: syntax error at - line 1, near ". ="
 
-=item * Parsing
+=item * Parsing perl 5
 
 Better parsing in perl 5
 
@@ -644,7 +644,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: hello, world
     # perl5 prints: syntax error
 
-=item * Parsing
+=item * Parsing function
 
 "if it looks like a function, it is a function" rule.
 
@@ -654,7 +654,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: is zero
     # perl5 warns: "Useless use of a constant in void context" if using -w
 
-=item * Parsing
+=item * Parsing C<$#array>
 
 String interpolation of the C<$#array> construct differs when braces
 are to used around the name.
@@ -671,7 +671,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: {a}
     # perl5 prints: 2
 
-=item * Parsing
+=item * Parsing C<map>, C<grep>
 
 When perl sees C<map {> (or C<grep {>), it has to guess whether the C<{>
 starts a BLOCK or a hash reference. If it guesses wrong, it will report
@@ -690,7 +690,7 @@
 
 =over 5
 
-=item * Numerical
+=item * Numerical formatted output and significant digits
 
 Formatted output and significant digits.  In general, Perl 5
 tries to be more precise.  For example, on a Solaris Sparc:
@@ -711,7 +711,7 @@
 Your results may vary, since your floating point formatting routines
 and even floating point format may be slightly different.
 
-=item * Numerical
+=item * Numerical auto-increment operator
 
 This specific item has been deleted.  It demonstrated how the auto-increment
 operator would not catch when a number went over the signed int limit.  Fixed
@@ -720,7 +720,7 @@
 
    use Math::BigInt;
 
-=item * Numerical
+=item * Numerical return values from numeric equality tests
 
 Assignment of return values from numeric equality tests
 does not work in perl5 when the test evaluates to false (0).
@@ -768,7 +768,7 @@
 
 =over 5
 
-=item * (Arrays)
+=item * (Arrays) negative array subscripts
 
 Negative array subscripts now count from the end of the array.
 
@@ -778,7 +778,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: The third element of the array is 4 also expressed as
     # perl5 prints: The third element of the array is 4 also expressed as 4
 
-=item * (Arrays)
+=item * (Arrays) setting C<$#array> lower
 
 Setting C<$#array> lower now discards array elements, and makes them
 impossible to recover.
@@ -793,7 +793,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: Before: abcde, After: ab, Recovered: abcd
     # perl5 prints: Before: abcde, After: ab, Recovered: ab
 
-=item * (Hashes)
+=item * (Hashes) defined before use
 
 Hashes get defined before use
 
@@ -808,7 +808,7 @@
 Perl will now generate a warning when it sees defined(@a) and
 defined(%h).
 
-=item * (Globs)
+=item * (Globs) assignment from localized variable to variable
 
 glob assignment from variable to variable will fail if the assigned
 variable is localized subsequent to the assignment
@@ -821,7 +821,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: This is Perl 4
     # perl5 prints:
 
-=item * (Globs)
+=item * (Globs) assigning C<undef>
 
 Assigning C<undef> to a glob has no effect in Perl 5.   In Perl 4
 it undefines the associated scalar (but may have other side effects
@@ -839,7 +839,7 @@
     # perl5 prints: bar
     # perl5 warns: "Undefined value assigned to typeglob" if using -w
 
-=item * (Scalar String)
+=item * (Scalar String) unary negation
 
 Changes in unary negation (of strings)
 This change effects both the return value and what it
@@ -853,7 +853,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: aab : -0 : 1
     # perl5 prints: aab : -aab : aac
 
-=item * (Constants)
+=item * (Constants) modify constants
 
 perl 4 lets you modify constants:
 
@@ -879,7 +879,7 @@
     # Modification of a read-only value attempted at foo.pl line 12.
     # before: a
 
-=item * (Scalars)
+=item * (Scalars) defined $var
 
 The behavior is slightly different for:
 
@@ -931,7 +931,7 @@
 
 =over 5
 
-=item * (list context)
+=item * (list context) formats evaluated in list context
 
 The elements of argument lists for formats are now evaluated in list
 context.  This means you can interpolate list values now.
@@ -946,7 +946,7 @@
     # perl4 errors:  Please use commas to separate fields in file
     # perl5 prints: foo     bar      baz
 
-=item * (scalar context)
+=item * (scalar context) C<caller> return value
 
 The C<caller()> function now returns a false value in a scalar context
 if there is no caller.  This lets library files determine if they're
@@ -957,7 +957,7 @@
     # perl4 errors: There is no caller
     # perl5 prints: Got a 0
 
-=item * (scalar context)
+=item * (scalar context) comma operator
 
 The comma operator in a scalar context is now guaranteed to give a
 scalar context to its arguments.
@@ -969,7 +969,7 @@
     # Perl4 prints:  x = c   # Thinks list context interpolates list
     # Perl5 prints:  x = 3   # Knows scalar uses length of list
 
-=item * (list, builtin)
+=item * (list, builtin) C<sprintf()> prototype
 
 C<sprintf()> is prototyped as ($;@), so its first argument is given scalar
 context. Thus, if passed an array, it will probably not do what you want,
@@ -1002,7 +1002,7 @@
 
 =over 5
 
-=item * Precedence
+=item * Precedence LHS vs. RHS
 
 LHS vs. RHS of any assignment operator.  LHS is evaluated first
 in perl4, second in perl5; this can affect the relationship
@@ -1015,7 +1015,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: left
     # perl5 prints: right
 
-=item * Precedence
+=item * Precedence semantic errors
 
 These are now semantic errors because of precedence:
 
@@ -1029,7 +1029,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: n is 3, m is 6
     # perl5 errors and fails to compile
 
-=item * Precedence
+=item * Precedence assignment operators
 
 The precedence of assignment operators is now the same as the precedence
 of assignment.  Perl 4 mistakenly gave them the precedence of the associated
@@ -1051,7 +1051,7 @@
 
 now works as a C programmer would expect.
 
-=item * Precedence
+=item * Precedence C<open>
 
     open FOO || die;
 
@@ -1063,7 +1063,7 @@
     # perl4 opens or dies
     # perl5 opens FOO, dying only if 'FOO' is false, i.e. never
 
-=item * Precedence
+=item * Precedence C<$:>
 
 perl4 gives the special variable, C<$:> precedence, where perl5
 treats C<$::> as main C<package>
@@ -1073,7 +1073,7 @@
     # perl 4 prints: -:a
     # perl 5 prints: x
 
-=item * Precedence
+=item * Precedence file test operators
 
 perl4 had buggy precedence for the file test operators vis-a-vis
 the assignment operators.  Thus, although the precedence table
@@ -1086,7 +1086,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: no output
     # perl5 prints: Can't modify -e in concatenation
 
-=item * Precedence
+=item * Precedence C<keys>, C<each>, C<values>
 
 In perl4, keys(), each() and values() were special high-precedence operators
 that operated on a single hash, but in perl5, they are regular named unary
@@ -1111,7 +1111,7 @@
 
 =over 5
 
-=item * Regular Expression
+=item * Regular Expression C<s'$lhs'$rhs'>
 
 C<s'$lhs'$rhs'> now does no interpolation on either side.  It used to
 interpolate $lhs but not $rhs.  (And still does not match a literal
@@ -1125,7 +1125,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: $b 2 $a $b
     # perl5 prints: 1 2 $a $b
 
-=item * Regular Expression
+=item * Regular Expression C<m//g>
 
 C<m//g> now attaches its state to the searched string rather than the
 regular expression.  (Once the scope of a block is left for the sub, the
@@ -1140,7 +1140,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: Got blah Got blah Got blah Got blah
     # perl5 prints: infinite loop blah...
 
-=item * Regular Expression
+=item * Regular Expression C<m//o>
 
 Currently, if you use the C<m//o> qualifier on a regular expression
 within an anonymous sub, I<all> closures generated from that anonymous
@@ -1166,7 +1166,7 @@
 $left and $right as they were the I<first> time that build_match()
 was called, not as they are in the current call.
 
-=item * Regular Expression
+=item * Regular Expression C<$+>
 
 If no parentheses are used in a match, Perl4 sets C<$+> to
 the whole match, just like C<$&>. Perl5 does not.
@@ -1177,7 +1177,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: bcde
     # perl5 prints:
 
-=item * Regular Expression
+=item * Regular Expression substitution returns null string
 
 substitution now returns the null string if it fails
 
@@ -1190,7 +1190,7 @@
 
 Also see L<Numerical Traps> for another example of this new feature.
 
-=item * Regular Expression
+=item * Regular Expression C<s`lhs`rhs`>
 
 C<s`lhs`rhs`> (using backticks) is now a normal substitution, with no
 backtick expansion
@@ -1202,7 +1202,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: <the local hostname>
     # perl5 prints: hostname
 
-=item * Regular Expression
+=item * Regular Expression stricter parsing of variables
 
 Stricter parsing of variables used in regular expressions
 
@@ -1224,7 +1224,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: foo
     # perl5 prints: foobar
 
-=item * Regular Expression
+=item * Regular Expression C<m?x?>
 
 Under perl5, C<m?x?> matches only once, like C<?x?>. Under perl4, it matched
 repeatedly, like C</x/> or C<m!x!>.
@@ -1243,7 +1243,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: perl4
     # perl5 prints: perl5
 
-=item * Regular Expression
+=item * Regular Expression reset match variables
 
 Unlike in Ruby, failed matches in Perl do not reset the match variables
 ($1, $2, ..., C<$`>, ...).
@@ -1299,7 +1299,7 @@
 
 =over 5
 
-=item * (SysV)
+=item * (SysV) reset signal handler
 
 Under HPUX, and some other SysV OSes, one had to reset any signal handler,
 within  the signal handler function, each time a signal was handled with
@@ -1326,7 +1326,7 @@
     # perl4 (HPUX) prints: Got INT...
     # perl5 (HPUX) prints: Got INT... Got INT...
 
-=item * (SysV)
+=item * (SysV) C<seek()>
 
 Under SysV OSes, C<seek()> on a file opened to append C<<< >> >>> now does
 the right thing w.r.t. the fopen() manpage. e.g., - When a file is opened
@@ -1356,7 +1356,7 @@
 
 =over 5
 
-=item * Interpolation
+=item * Interpolation @
 
 @ now always interpolates an array in double-quotish strings.
 
@@ -1366,7 +1366,7 @@
     # perl < 5.6.1, error : In string, @somewhere now must be written as \@somewhere
     # perl >= 5.6.1, warning : Possible unintended interpolation of @somewhere in string
 
-=item * Interpolation
+=item * Interpolation strings ended with an unescaped $
 
 Double-quoted strings may no longer end with an unescaped $.
 
@@ -1378,7 +1378,7 @@
 
 Note: perl5 DOES NOT error on the terminating @ in $bar
 
-=item * Interpolation
+=item * Interpolation arbitrary expressions
 
 Perl now sometimes evaluates arbitrary expressions inside braces that occur
 within double quotes (usually when the opening brace is preceded by C<$>
@@ -1395,7 +1395,7 @@
 
 Note that you can C<use strict;> to ward off such trappiness under perl5.
 
-=item * Interpolation
+=item * Interpolation C<$$x>
 
 The construct "this is $$x" used to interpolate the pid at that point, but
 now tries to dereference $x.  C<$$> by itself still works fine, however.
@@ -1407,7 +1407,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: this is XXXx   (XXX is the current pid)
     # perl5 prints: this is a reference
 
-=item * Interpolation
+=item * Interpolation creation of hashes on the fly with C<eval "EXPR">
 
 Creation of hashes on the fly with C<eval "EXPR"> now requires either both
 C<$>'s to be protected in the specification of the hash name, or both curlies
@@ -1448,7 +1448,7 @@
     # and is compatible for both versions
 
 
-=item * Interpolation
+=item * Interpolation bugs in earlier perl versions
 
 perl4 programs which unconsciously rely on the bugs in earlier perl versions.
 
@@ -1457,7 +1457,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: This is not perl5
     # perl5 prints: This is perl5
 
-=item * Interpolation
+=item * Interpolation array and hash brackets
 
 You also have to be careful about array and hash brackets during
 interpolation.
@@ -1479,9 +1479,9 @@
     print "$foo\[";
     print "$foo\{";
 
-=item * Interpolation
+=item * Interpolation C<\$$foo{bar}>
 
-Similarly, watch out for:
+Similarly, watch out for: C<\$$foo{bar}>
 
     $foo = "baz";
     print "\$$foo{bar}\n";
@@ -1493,7 +1493,7 @@
 happy just to expand $foo to "baz" by itself.  Watch out for this
 especially in C<eval>'s.
 
-=item * Interpolation
+=item * Interpolation C<qq()>
 
 C<qq()> string passed to C<eval>
 
@@ -1514,7 +1514,7 @@
 
 =over 5
 
-=item * DBM
+=item * DBM same dbm/ndbm as the default for C<dbmopen()>
 
 Existing dbm databases created under perl4 (or any other dbm/ndbm tool)
 may cause the same script, run under perl5, to fail.  The build of perl5
@@ -1528,7 +1528,7 @@
     # perl5 prints: ok (IFF linked with -ldbm or -lndbm)
 
 
-=item * DBM
+=item * DBM exceeding the limit on the key/value size
 
 Existing dbm databases created under perl4 (or any other dbm/ndbm tool)
 may cause the same script, run under perl5, to fail.  The error generated

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p5pRT commented Apr 2, 2005

From @schwern

On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 07​:26​:04PM +0200, Steven Schubiger wrote​:

Inline attached is a patch.

I think some of the section headers can be improved...

--- bleadperl/pod/perltrap.pod Tue Dec 21 13​:29​:36 2004
+++ perltrap.pod Fri Apr 1 19​:01​:44 2005
@​@​ -418,7 +418,7 @​@​

=over 4

-=item * Discontinuance
+=item * Discontinuance C<_>

In "Discontinuance, Deprecation and BugFix traps" its not really so important
that each trap is a result of something being Discontinued, Deprecated or
a BugFix... what's important is that the feature isn't there anymore and
what that feature was.

So this one, for example, might be better titled

=item * Symbols starting with "_" no longer forced into main.

Symbols starting with "_" are no longer forced into package main, except
for C<$_> itself (and C<@​_>, etc.).
@​@​ -432,7 +432,7 @​@​
# perl4 prints​: $_legacy is 1
# perl5 prints​: $_legacy is

-=item * Deprecation
+=item * Deprecation C<​::>

Double-colon is now a valid package separator

Double-colon is now a valid package separator in a variable name. Thus these
behave differently in perl4 vs. perl5, because the packages don't exist.
@​@​ -462,7 +462,7 @​@​

Also see precedence traps, for parsing C<$​:>.

-=item * BugFix
+=item * BugFix C<splice()>

2nd and 3rd args to splice() are now in scalar context

The second and third arguments of C<splice()> are now evaluated in scalar
context (as the Camel says) rather than list context.
@​@​ -476,7 +476,7 @​@​
# perl4 prints​: a b
# perl5 prints​: c d e

-=item * Discontinuance
+=item * Discontinuance C<goto>

Can't do a goto into a block that is optimized away.

You can't do a C<goto> into a block that is optimized away. Darn.

@​@​ -490,7 +490,7 @​@​
# perl4 prints​: Here I is!
# perl5 errors​: Can't "goto" into the middle of a foreach loop

-=item * Discontinuance
+=item * Discontinuance whitespace as the name of a variable

Can't use whitespace as a variable name or quote delimiter.

It is no longer syntactically legal to use whitespace as the name
of a variable, or as a delimiter for any kind of quote construct.
@​@​ -503,7 +503,7 @​@​
# perl4 prints​: a is foo bar, b is baz
# perl5 errors​: Bareword found where operator expected

-=item * Discontinuance
+=item * Discontinuance C<while/if BLOCK BLOCK>

while/if BLOCK BLOCK gone

The archaic while/if BLOCK BLOCK syntax is no longer supported.

@​@​ -517,7 +517,7 @​@​
# perl4 prints​: True!
# perl5 errors​: syntax error at test.pl line 1, near "if {"

-=item * BugFix
+=item * BugFix C<**>

** binds tighter than unary minus

The C<**> operator now binds more tightly than unary minus.
It was documented to work this way before, but didn't.
@​@​ -527,7 +527,7 @​@​
# perl4 prints​: 16
# perl5 prints​: -16

-=item * Discontinuance
+=item * Discontinuance C<foreach{}>

foreach changed when iterating over a list

The meaning of C<foreach{}> has changed slightly when it is iterating over a
list which is not an array. This used to assign the list to a
@​@​ -559,7 +559,7 @​@​
happens when you use C<$_> for the loop variable, and call subroutines in
the loop that don't properly localize C<$_>.)

-=item * Discontinuance
+=item * Discontinuance C<split>

split with no arguments behavior changed

Umm, etc...

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p5pRT commented Apr 2, 2005

From schubiger@cpan.org

On 1 Apr, Michael G Schwern wrote​:

: I think some of the section headers can be improved...

If accuracy is more adequate than brevity, than I certainly
have to agree, which is what it seems to be.

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p5pRT commented Apr 2, 2005

From schubiger@cpan.org

On 1 Apr, Michael G Schwern wrote​:

: I think some of the section headers can be improved...

Patch version deux.

Inline Patch
--- bleadperl/pod/perltrap.pod	Tue Dec 21 13:29:36 2004
+++ perltrap.pod		Sat Apr  2 19:31:57 2005
@@ -418,7 +418,7 @@
 
 =over 4
 
-=item * Discontinuance
+=item * Symbols starting with "_" no longer forced into main
 
 Symbols starting with "_" are no longer forced into package main, except
 for C<$_> itself (and C<@_>, etc.).
@@ -432,7 +432,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: $_legacy is 1
     # perl5 prints: $_legacy is
 
-=item * Deprecation
+=item * Double-colon valid package separator in variable name
 
 Double-colon is now a valid package separator in a variable name.  Thus these
 behave differently in perl4 vs. perl5, because the packages don't exist.
@@ -462,7 +462,7 @@
 
 Also see precedence traps, for parsing C<$:>.
 
-=item * BugFix
+=item * 2nd and 3rd args to C<splice()> are now in scalar context
 
 The second and third arguments of C<splice()> are now evaluated in scalar
 context (as the Camel says) rather than list context.
@@ -476,7 +476,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: a b
     # perl5 prints: c d e
 
-=item * Discontinuance
+=item * Can't do C<goto> into a block that is optimized away
 
 You can't do a C<goto> into a block that is optimized away.  Darn.
 
@@ -490,7 +490,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: Here I is!
     # perl5 errors: Can't "goto" into the middle of a foreach loop
 
-=item * Discontinuance
+=item * Can't use whitespace as variable name or quote delimiter
 
 It is no longer syntactically legal to use whitespace as the name
 of a variable, or as a delimiter for any kind of quote construct.
@@ -503,7 +503,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: a is foo bar, b is baz
     # perl5 errors: Bareword found where operator expected
 
-=item * Discontinuance
+=item * C<while/if BLOCK BLOCK> gone
 
 The archaic while/if BLOCK BLOCK syntax is no longer supported.
 
@@ -517,7 +517,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: True!
     # perl5 errors: syntax error at test.pl line 1, near "if {"
 
-=item * BugFix
+=item * C<**> binds tighter than unary minus
 
 The C<**> operator now binds more tightly than unary minus.
 It was documented to work this way before, but didn't.
@@ -527,7 +527,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: 16
     # perl5 prints: -16
 
-=item * Discontinuance
+=item * C<foreach> changed when iterating over a list
 
 The meaning of C<foreach{}> has changed slightly when it is iterating over a
 list which is not an array.  This used to assign the list to a
@@ -559,7 +559,7 @@
 happens when you use C<$_> for the loop variable, and call subroutines in
 the loop that don't properly localize C<$_>.)
 
-=item * Discontinuance
+=item * C<split> with no args behavior changed
 
 C<split> with no arguments now behaves like C<split ' '> (which doesn't
 return an initial null field if $_ starts with whitespace), it used to
@@ -571,7 +571,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: :hi:mom
     # perl5 prints: hi:mom
 
-=item * BugFix
+=item * B<-e> behavior fixed
 
 Perl 4 would ignore any text which was attached to an B<-e> switch,
 always taking the code snippet from the following arg.  Additionally, it
@@ -588,7 +588,7 @@
     # perl4 prints:
     # perl5 dies: No code specified for -e.
 
-=item * Discontinuance
+=item * C<push> returns number of elements in resulting list
 
 In Perl 4 the return value of C<push> was undocumented, but it was
 actually the last value being pushed onto the target list.  In Perl 5
@@ -601,17 +601,17 @@
     # perl4 prints: second new
     # perl5 prints: 3
 
-=item * Deprecation
+=item * Some error messages differ
 
 Some error messages will be different.
 
-=item * Discontinuance
+=item * C<split()> honors subroutine args
 
 In Perl 4, if in list context the delimiters to the first argument of
 C<split()> were C<??>, the result would be placed in C<@_> as well as
 being returned.   Perl 5 has more respect for your subroutine arguments.
 
-=item * Discontinuance
+=item * Bugs removed
 
 Some bugs may have been inadvertently removed.  :-)
 
@@ -623,7 +623,7 @@
 
 =over 4
 
-=item * Parsing
+=item * Space between . and = triggers syntax error
 
 Note the space between . and =
 
@@ -633,7 +633,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: more string
     # perl5 prints: syntax error at - line 1, near ". ="
 
-=item * Parsing
+=item * Better parsing in perl 5
 
 Better parsing in perl 5
 
@@ -644,7 +644,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: hello, world
     # perl5 prints: syntax error
 
-=item * Parsing
+=item * Function parsing
 
 "if it looks like a function, it is a function" rule.
 
@@ -654,7 +654,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: is zero
     # perl5 warns: "Useless use of a constant in void context" if using -w
 
-=item * Parsing
+=item * String interpolation of C<$#array> differs
 
 String interpolation of the C<$#array> construct differs when braces
 are to used around the name.
@@ -671,7 +671,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: {a}
     # perl5 prints: 2
 
-=item * Parsing
+=item * Perl guesses on C<map>, C<grep> followed by C<{> whether C<{> starts BLOCK or hash ref
 
 When perl sees C<map {> (or C<grep {>), it has to guess whether the C<{>
 starts a BLOCK or a hash reference. If it guesses wrong, it will report
@@ -690,7 +690,7 @@
 
 =over 5
 
-=item * Numerical
+=item * Formatted output and significant digits
 
 Formatted output and significant digits.  In general, Perl 5
 tries to be more precise.  For example, on a Solaris Sparc:
@@ -711,7 +711,7 @@
 Your results may vary, since your floating point formatting routines
 and even floating point format may be slightly different.
 
-=item * Numerical
+=item * Auto-increment operator over signed int limit deleted
 
 This specific item has been deleted.  It demonstrated how the auto-increment
 operator would not catch when a number went over the signed int limit.  Fixed
@@ -720,7 +720,7 @@
 
    use Math::BigInt;
 
-=item * Numerical
+=item * Assignment of return values from numeric equality tests doesn't works
 
 Assignment of return values from numeric equality tests
 does not work in perl5 when the test evaluates to false (0).
@@ -768,7 +768,7 @@
 
 =over 5
 
-=item * (Arrays)
+=item * Negative array subscripts now count from the end of array
 
 Negative array subscripts now count from the end of the array.
 
@@ -778,7 +778,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: The third element of the array is 4 also expressed as
     # perl5 prints: The third element of the array is 4 also expressed as 4
 
-=item * (Arrays)
+=item * Setting C<$#array> lower now discards array elements
 
 Setting C<$#array> lower now discards array elements, and makes them
 impossible to recover.
@@ -793,7 +793,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: Before: abcde, After: ab, Recovered: abcd
     # perl5 prints: Before: abcde, After: ab, Recovered: ab
 
-=item * (Hashes)
+=item * Hashes get defined before use
 
 Hashes get defined before use
 
@@ -808,7 +808,7 @@
 Perl will now generate a warning when it sees defined(@a) and
 defined(%h).
 
-=item * (Globs)
+=item * Glob assignment from localized variable to variable
 
 glob assignment from variable to variable will fail if the assigned
 variable is localized subsequent to the assignment
@@ -821,7 +821,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: This is Perl 4
     # perl5 prints:
 
-=item * (Globs)
+=item * Assigning C<undef> to glob
 
 Assigning C<undef> to a glob has no effect in Perl 5.   In Perl 4
 it undefines the associated scalar (but may have other side effects
@@ -839,7 +839,7 @@
     # perl5 prints: bar
     # perl5 warns: "Undefined value assigned to typeglob" if using -w
 
-=item * (Scalar String)
+=item * Changes in unary negation (of strings)
 
 Changes in unary negation (of strings)
 This change effects both the return value and what it
@@ -853,7 +853,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: aab : -0 : 1
     # perl5 prints: aab : -aab : aac
 
-=item * (Constants)
+=item * Modifying of constants prohibited
 
 perl 4 lets you modify constants:
 
@@ -879,7 +879,7 @@
     # Modification of a read-only value attempted at foo.pl line 12.
     # before: a
 
-=item * (Scalars)
+=item * C<defined $var> behavior changed
 
 The behavior is slightly different for:
 
@@ -888,7 +888,7 @@
     # perl 4: 1
     # perl 5: <no output, $x is not called into existence>
 
-=item * (Variable Suicide)
+=item * Variable Suicide
 
 Variable suicide behavior is more consistent under Perl 5.
 Perl5 exhibits the same behavior for hashes and scalars,
@@ -931,7 +931,7 @@
 
 =over 5
 
-=item * (list context)
+=item * Elements of argument lists for formats evaluated in list context
 
 The elements of argument lists for formats are now evaluated in list
 context.  This means you can interpolate list values now.
@@ -946,7 +946,7 @@
     # perl4 errors:  Please use commas to separate fields in file
     # perl5 prints: foo     bar      baz
 
-=item * (scalar context)
+=item * C<caller()> returns false value in scalar context if no caller present
 
 The C<caller()> function now returns a false value in a scalar context
 if there is no caller.  This lets library files determine if they're
@@ -957,7 +957,7 @@
     # perl4 errors: There is no caller
     # perl5 prints: Got a 0
 
-=item * (scalar context)
+=item * Comma operator in scalar context gives scalar context to args
 
 The comma operator in a scalar context is now guaranteed to give a
 scalar context to its arguments.
@@ -969,7 +969,7 @@
     # Perl4 prints:  x = c   # Thinks list context interpolates list
     # Perl5 prints:  x = 3   # Knows scalar uses length of list
 
-=item * (list, builtin)
+=item * C<sprintf()> prototyped as C<($;@)>
 
 C<sprintf()> is prototyped as ($;@), so its first argument is given scalar
 context. Thus, if passed an array, it will probably not do what you want,
@@ -1002,7 +1002,7 @@
 
 =over 5
 
-=item * Precedence
+=item * LHS vs. RHS of any assignment operator
 
 LHS vs. RHS of any assignment operator.  LHS is evaluated first
 in perl4, second in perl5; this can affect the relationship
@@ -1015,7 +1015,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: left
     # perl5 prints: right
 
-=item * Precedence
+=item * Semantic errors introduced due to precedence
 
 These are now semantic errors because of precedence:
 
@@ -1029,7 +1029,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: n is 3, m is 6
     # perl5 errors and fails to compile
 
-=item * Precedence
+=item * Precedence of assignment operators same as the precedence of assignment
 
 The precedence of assignment operators is now the same as the precedence
 of assignment.  Perl 4 mistakenly gave them the precedence of the associated
@@ -1051,7 +1051,7 @@
 
 now works as a C programmer would expect.
 
-=item * Precedence
+=item * C<open> requires parentheses around filehandle
 
     open FOO || die;
 
@@ -1063,7 +1063,7 @@
     # perl4 opens or dies
     # perl5 opens FOO, dying only if 'FOO' is false, i.e. never
 
-=item * Precedence
+=item * C<$:> precedence over C<$::> gone
 
 perl4 gives the special variable, C<$:> precedence, where perl5
 treats C<$::> as main C<package>
@@ -1073,7 +1073,7 @@
     # perl 4 prints: -:a
     # perl 5 prints: x
 
-=item * Precedence
+=item * Precedence of file test operators documented
 
 perl4 had buggy precedence for the file test operators vis-a-vis
 the assignment operators.  Thus, although the precedence table
@@ -1086,7 +1086,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: no output
     # perl5 prints: Can't modify -e in concatenation
 
-=item * Precedence
+=item * C<keys>, C<each>, C<values> are regular named unary operators
 
 In perl4, keys(), each() and values() were special high-precedence operators
 that operated on a single hash, but in perl5, they are regular named unary
@@ -1111,7 +1111,7 @@
 
 =over 5
 
-=item * Regular Expression
+=item * C<s'$lhs'$rhs'> interpolates on either side
 
 C<s'$lhs'$rhs'> now does no interpolation on either side.  It used to
 interpolate $lhs but not $rhs.  (And still does not match a literal
@@ -1125,7 +1125,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: $b 2 $a $b
     # perl5 prints: 1 2 $a $b
 
-=item * Regular Expression
+=item * C<m//g> attaches its state to the searched string
 
 C<m//g> now attaches its state to the searched string rather than the
 regular expression.  (Once the scope of a block is left for the sub, the
@@ -1140,7 +1140,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: Got blah Got blah Got blah Got blah
     # perl5 prints: infinite loop blah...
 
-=item * Regular Expression
+=item * C<m//o> used within an anonymous sub
 
 Currently, if you use the C<m//o> qualifier on a regular expression
 within an anonymous sub, I<all> closures generated from that anonymous
@@ -1166,7 +1166,7 @@
 $left and $right as they were the I<first> time that build_match()
 was called, not as they are in the current call.
 
-=item * Regular Expression
+=item * C<$+> isn't set to whole match
 
 If no parentheses are used in a match, Perl4 sets C<$+> to
 the whole match, just like C<$&>. Perl5 does not.
@@ -1177,7 +1177,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: bcde
     # perl5 prints:
 
-=item * Regular Expression
+=item * Substitution now returns null string if it fails
 
 substitution now returns the null string if it fails
 
@@ -1190,7 +1190,7 @@
 
 Also see L<Numerical Traps> for another example of this new feature.
 
-=item * Regular Expression
+=item * C<s`lhs`rhs`> is now a normal substitution
 
 C<s`lhs`rhs`> (using backticks) is now a normal substitution, with no
 backtick expansion
@@ -1202,7 +1202,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: <the local hostname>
     # perl5 prints: hostname
 
-=item * Regular Expression
+=item * Stricter parsing of variables in regular expressions
 
 Stricter parsing of variables used in regular expressions
 
@@ -1224,7 +1224,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: foo
     # perl5 prints: foobar
 
-=item * Regular Expression
+=item * C<m?x?> matches only once
 
 Under perl5, C<m?x?> matches only once, like C<?x?>. Under perl4, it matched
 repeatedly, like C</x/> or C<m!x!>.
@@ -1243,7 +1243,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: perl4
     # perl5 prints: perl5
 
-=item * Regular Expression
+=item * Failed matches don't reset the match variables
 
 Unlike in Ruby, failed matches in Perl do not reset the match variables
 ($1, $2, ..., C<$`>, ...).
@@ -1258,7 +1258,7 @@
 
 =over 5
 
-=item * (Signals)
+=item * Barewords that used to look like strings look like subroutine calls if a subroutine by that name is defined
 
 Barewords that used to look like strings to Perl will now look like subroutine
 calls if a subroutine by that name is defined before the compiler sees them.
@@ -1272,7 +1272,7 @@
 
 Use B<-w> to catch this one
 
-=item * (Sort Subroutine)
+=item * Reverse is no longer allowed as the name of a sort subroutine
 
 reverse is no longer allowed as the name of a sort subroutine.
 
@@ -1283,7 +1283,7 @@
     # perl5 prints: 123
     # perl5 warns (if using -w): Ambiguous call resolved as CORE::reverse()
 
-=item * warn() won't let you specify a filehandle.
+=item * C<warn()> won't let you specify a filehandle.
 
 Although it _always_ printed to STDERR, warn() would let you specify a
 filehandle in perl4.  With perl5 it does not.
@@ -1299,7 +1299,7 @@
 
 =over 5
 
-=item * (SysV)
+=item * SysV resets signal handler correctly
 
 Under HPUX, and some other SysV OSes, one had to reset any signal handler,
 within  the signal handler function, each time a signal was handled with
@@ -1326,7 +1326,7 @@
     # perl4 (HPUX) prints: Got INT...
     # perl5 (HPUX) prints: Got INT... Got INT...
 
-=item * (SysV)
+=item * SysV C<seek()> appends correctly
 
 Under SysV OSes, C<seek()> on a file opened to append C<<< >> >>> now does
 the right thing w.r.t. the fopen() manpage. e.g., - When a file is opened
@@ -1356,7 +1356,7 @@
 
 =over 5
 
-=item * Interpolation
+=item * C<@> always interpolates an array in double-quotish strings
 
 @ now always interpolates an array in double-quotish strings.
 
@@ -1366,7 +1366,7 @@
     # perl < 5.6.1, error : In string, @somewhere now must be written as \@somewhere
     # perl >= 5.6.1, warning : Possible unintended interpolation of @somewhere in string
 
-=item * Interpolation
+=item * Double-quoted strings may no longer end with an unescaped $
 
 Double-quoted strings may no longer end with an unescaped $.
 
@@ -1378,7 +1378,7 @@
 
 Note: perl5 DOES NOT error on the terminating @ in $bar
 
-=item * Interpolation
+=item * Arbitrary expressions are evaluated inside braces that occur within double quotes
 
 Perl now sometimes evaluates arbitrary expressions inside braces that occur
 within double quotes (usually when the opening brace is preceded by C<$>
@@ -1395,7 +1395,7 @@
 
 Note that you can C<use strict;> to ward off such trappiness under perl5.
 
-=item * Interpolation
+=item * C<$$x> now tries to dereference $x
 
 The construct "this is $$x" used to interpolate the pid at that point, but
 now tries to dereference $x.  C<$$> by itself still works fine, however.
@@ -1407,7 +1407,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: this is XXXx   (XXX is the current pid)
     # perl5 prints: this is a reference
 
-=item * Interpolation
+=item * Creation of hashes on the fly with C<eval "EXPR"> requires protection of C<$>'s or both curlies
 
 Creation of hashes on the fly with C<eval "EXPR"> now requires either both
 C<$>'s to be protected in the specification of the hash name, or both curlies
@@ -1448,7 +1448,7 @@
     # and is compatible for both versions
 
 
-=item * Interpolation
+=item * Bugs in earlier perl versions
 
 perl4 programs which unconsciously rely on the bugs in earlier perl versions.
 
@@ -1457,7 +1457,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: This is not perl5
     # perl5 prints: This is perl5
 
-=item * Interpolation
+=item * Array and hash brackets during interpolation
 
 You also have to be careful about array and hash brackets during
 interpolation.
@@ -1479,9 +1479,9 @@
     print "$foo\[";
     print "$foo\{";
 
-=item * Interpolation
+=item * Interpolation of C<\$$foo{bar}>
 
-Similarly, watch out for:
+Similarly, watch out for: C<\$$foo{bar}>
 
     $foo = "baz";
     print "\$$foo{bar}\n";
@@ -1493,7 +1493,7 @@
 happy just to expand $foo to "baz" by itself.  Watch out for this
 especially in C<eval>'s.
 
-=item * Interpolation
+=item * C<qq()> string passed to C<eval> will not find string terminator
 
 C<qq()> string passed to C<eval>
 
@@ -1514,7 +1514,7 @@
 
 =over 5
 
-=item * DBM
+=item * Perl5 must have been linked with the same dbm/ndbm as the default for C<dbmopen()> to function properly without C<tie>'ing
 
 Existing dbm databases created under perl4 (or any other dbm/ndbm tool)
 may cause the same script, run under perl5, to fail.  The build of perl5
@@ -1528,7 +1528,7 @@
     # perl5 prints: ok (IFF linked with -ldbm or -lndbm)
 
 
-=item * DBM
+=item * DBM exceeding the limit on the key/value size will cause perl5 to exit immediately
 
 Existing dbm databases created under perl4 (or any other dbm/ndbm tool)
 may cause the same script, run under perl5, to fail.  The error generated

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p5pRT commented Apr 2, 2005

From @schwern

On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 07​:37​:11PM +0200, Steven Schubiger wrote​:

On 1 Apr, Michael G Schwern wrote​:

: I think some of the section headers can be improved...

Patch version deux.

Thank you, that was a lot of work. I know I gave up about 1/3 of the way
through.

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p5pRT commented Apr 3, 2005

From @mhx

On 2005-04-02, at 19​:37​:11 +0200, Steven Schubiger wrote​:

On 1 Apr, Michael G Schwern wrote​:

: I think some of the section headers can be improved...

Patch version deux.

Thanks, applied as change #24139.

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Moin,

Steven wrote​:

On 1 Apr, Michael G Schwern wrote​:

​: I think some of the section headers can be improved...

Patch version deux.

Thanx for your work! One small nit, though​: Some of the new headers look
awefully long and I remember there are some problems with overly long
headlines/items​:

-=item * Parsing
+=item * Perl guesses on C<map>, C<grep> followed by C<{> whether C<{>
starts BLOCK or hash ref

-=item * Precedence
+=item * Precedence of assignment operators same as the precedence of
assignment

etc etc.

In addition​:

-=item * Numerical
+=item * Assignment of return values from numeric equality tests doesn't
works

"work" (no "s" :)

I think most of the longer-than-80-chars items can be shortened without
loss of information.

Best wishes,

Tels

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p5pRT commented Apr 3, 2005

From schubiger@cpan.org

On 3 Apr, Tels wrote​:

: "work" (no "s" :)
:
: I think most of the longer-than-80-chars items can be shortened without
: loss of information.

Applied.

Inline Patch
--- bleadperl/pod/perltrap.pod	Sun Apr  3 10:47:49 2005
+++ patches/perltrap.pod	Sun Apr  3 11:42:29 2005
@@ -671,7 +671,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: {a}
     # perl5 prints: 2
 
-=item * Perl guesses on C<map>, C<grep> followed by C<{> whether C<{> starts BLOCK or hash ref
+=item * Perl guesses on C<map>, C<grep> followed by C<{> if it starts BLOCK or hash ref
 
 When perl sees C<map {> (or C<grep {>), it has to guess whether the C<{>
 starts a BLOCK or a hash reference. If it guesses wrong, it will report
@@ -720,7 +720,7 @@
 
    use Math::BigInt;
 
-=item * Assignment of return values from numeric equality tests doesn't works
+=item * Assignment of return values from numeric equality tests doesn't work
 
 Assignment of return values from numeric equality tests
 does not work in perl5 when the test evaluates to false (0).
@@ -1258,7 +1258,7 @@
 
 =over 5
 
-=item * Barewords that used to look like strings look like subroutine calls if a subroutine by that name is defined
+=item * Barewords that used to look like strings look like subroutine calls
 
 Barewords that used to look like strings to Perl will now look like subroutine
 calls if a subroutine by that name is defined before the compiler sees them.
@@ -1378,7 +1378,7 @@
 
 Note: perl5 DOES NOT error on the terminating @ in $bar
 
-=item * Arbitrary expressions are evaluated inside braces that occur within double quotes
+=item * Arbitrary expressions are evaluated inside braces within double quotes
 
 Perl now sometimes evaluates arbitrary expressions inside braces that occur
 within double quotes (usually when the opening brace is preceded by C<$>
@@ -1407,7 +1407,7 @@
     # perl4 prints: this is XXXx   (XXX is the current pid)
     # perl5 prints: this is a reference
 
-=item * Creation of hashes on the fly with C<eval "EXPR"> requires protection of C<$>'s or both curlies
+=item * Creation of hashes on the fly with C<eval "EXPR"> requires protection
 
 Creation of hashes on the fly with C<eval "EXPR"> now requires either both
 C<$>'s to be protected in the specification of the hash name, or both curlies
@@ -1514,7 +1514,7 @@
 
 =over 5
 
-=item * Perl5 must have been linked with the same dbm/ndbm as the default for C<dbmopen()> to function properly without C<tie>'ing
+=item * Perl5 must have been linked with same dbm/ndbm as the default for C<dbmopen()>
 
 Existing dbm databases created under perl4 (or any other dbm/ndbm tool)
 may cause the same script, run under perl5, to fail.  The build of perl5
@@ -1528,7 +1528,7 @@
     # perl5 prints: ok (IFF linked with -ldbm or -lndbm)
 
 
-=item * DBM exceeding the limit on the key/value size will cause perl5 to exit immediately
+=item * DBM exceeding limit on the key/value size will cause perl5 to exit immediately
 
 Existing dbm databases created under perl4 (or any other dbm/ndbm tool)
 may cause the same script, run under perl5, to fail.  The error generated

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p5pRT commented Apr 3, 2005

From @mhx

On 2005-04-03, at 11​:47​:22 +0200, Steven Schubiger wrote​:

On 3 Apr, Tels wrote​:

: "work" (no "s" :)
:
: I think most of the longer-than-80-chars items can be shortened without
: loss of information.

Applied.

--- bleadperl/pod/perltrap.pod Sun Apr 3 10​:47​:49 2005
+++ patches/perltrap.pod Sun Apr 3 11​:42​:29 2005

Thanks, applied as change #24147.

Marcus

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p5pRT commented Apr 4, 2005

@smpeters - Status changed from 'open' to 'resolved'

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