From @jidanni

perlop says​:

  Binary "=" binds a scalar expression to a pattern match. Certain
  operations search or modify the string $_ by default. This operator
...
  Binary "!" is just like "=~" except the return value is negated in the
  logical sense.

I would add examples before going on to discuss !. Sure there are
examples of = at other places on the page, but they are not the basic kind.

Examples are worth 1000 words.

Good ones on perlintro, but missing from =~'s chief documentation
place, perlop.

From @iabyn

On Mon, Oct 11, 2004 at 06​:48​:11PM -0000, Dan Jacobson wrote​:

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perlop says​:

   Binary "=~" binds a scalar expression to a pattern match\.  Certain
   operations search or modify the string $\_ by default\.  This operator

...
Binary "!" is just like "=" except the return value is negated in the
logical sense.

I would add examples before going on to discuss !. Sure there are
examples of = at other places on the page, but they are not the basic kind.

Examples are worth 1000 words.

Good ones on perlintro, but missing from =~'s chief documentation
place, perlop.

I think that's what perlretut (regular expresssion tutorial) is for.

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From @smpeters

[davem@​iabyn.com - Mon Oct 11 13​:02​:04 2004]​:

On Mon, Oct 11, 2004 at 06​:48​:11PM -0000, Dan Jacobson wrote​:

# New Ticket Created by Dan Jacobson
# Please include the string​: [perl #31937]
# in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue.
# <URL​: http​://rt.perl.org​:80/rt3/Ticket/Display.html?id=31937 >

perlop says​:

   Binary "=~" binds a scalar expression to a pattern match\.

Certain

   operations search or modify the string $\_ by default\.  This

operator

...
Binary "!" is just like "=" except the return value is
negated in the
logical sense.

I would add examples before going on to discuss !. Sure there are
examples of = at other places on the page, but they are not the
basic kind.

Examples are worth 1000 words.

Good ones on perlintro, but missing from =~'s chief documentation
place, perlop.

I think that's what perlretut (regular expresssion tutorial) is for.

Agreed, perlretut contains all these examples already.

@smpeters - Status changed from 'open' to 'rejected'

From @schwern

On Fri, Oct 22, 2004 at 05​:33​:45PM -0000, Steve Peters via RT wrote​:

I think that's what perlretut (regular expresssion tutorial) is for.

Agreed, perlretut contains all these examples already.

perlretut is not mentioned in perlop.

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@smpeters - Status changed from 'rejected' to 'open'

From @smpeters

On Friday 22 October 2004 01​:28 pm, Michael G Schwern wrote​:

On Fri, Oct 22, 2004 at 05​:33​:45PM -0000, Steve Peters via RT wrote​:

I think that's what perlretut (regular expresssion tutorial) is for.

Agreed, perlretut contains all these examples already.

perlretut is not mentioned in perlop.
OK, if this patch is applied, it will. :)

Steve Peters

--- perlop.pod.orig     2004-10-23 07:52:48.000000000 -0500
+++ perlop.pod  2004-10-23 07:59:51.000000000 -0500
@@ -219,7 +219,8 @@
 supposed to be searched, substituted, or transliterated instead of the 

If the right argument is an expression rather than a search pattern,
substitution, or transliteration, it is interpreted as a search pattern at
run

From @smpeters

--- perlop.pod.orig	2004-10-23 07:52:48.000000000 -0500
+++ perlop.pod	2004-10-23 07:59:51.000000000 -0500
@@ -219,7 +219,8 @@
 supposed to be searched, substituted, or transliterated instead of the default
 $_.  When used in scalar context, the return value generally indicates the
 success of the operation.  Behavior in list context depends on the particular
-operator.  See L</"Regexp Quote-Like Operators"> for details.
+operator.  See L</"Regexp Quote-Like Operators"> for details and 
+L<perlretut> for examples using these operators.
 
 If the right argument is an expression rather than a search pattern,
 substitution, or transliteration, it is interpreted as a search pattern at run

From @mhx

On 2004-10-23, at 08​:01​:51 -0500, Steve Peters wrote​:

On Friday 22 October 2004 01​:28 pm, Michael G Schwern wrote​:

On Fri, Oct 22, 2004 at 05​:33​:45PM -0000, Steve Peters via RT wrote​:

I think that's what perlretut (regular expresssion tutorial) is for.

Agreed, perlretut contains all these examples already.

perlretut is not mentioned in perlop.
OK, if this patch is applied, it will. :)

Thanks, applied as change #23420.

Marcus

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From @smpeters

The patch was applied, so this ticket is resolved.

@smpeters - Status changed from 'open' to 'resolved'