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From gdg@zplane.comJust fyi: The FAQ for perl5-porters gives http://www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing-lists/perl5-porters/ as the list archive. But that archive appears not to have been updated since Somewhat related question: There's another archive at http://grokbase.com/g/perl/perl5-porters which is up to date. But I've noticed that it nearly always takes a few hours I suspect there are other folks who are nonplussed about the length of time http://grokbase.com/t/perl/perl5-porters/148aymrzq8/test which seems to be someone complaining/curious/head-scratching about the same Anyway, just bringing it to your attention. Thanks, Glenn |
From @askOn Mon Aug 18 16:46:55 2014, gdg@zplane.com wrote:
The perl.org hosted archive is at http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl5.porters/ (fwiw) -- with 15 years of posts: http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl5.porters/1999/08.html |
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From @askOn Mon Aug 18 16:46:55 2014, gdg@zplane.com wrote:
We don't have anything to do with that archive, as far as I know. When posts don't go to the list promptly it's because they ended up in manual moderation which usually takes 12-48 hours. Ask |
From gdg@zplane.comAsk Bjoern Hansen via RT <perlbug-followup@perl.org> [2014-08-18 16:59:26 -0700]:
Yes, I came across that too and have been using it. My intent in mentioning the other one (www.xray.mpe.mpg.de) was just to point ====================================================================== Yes, there is, and it's at http://www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing- Perhaps the FAQ message could be updated. It doesn't mention the nntp.perl.org Glenn |
From @jkeenanOn Mon Aug 18 17:13:00 2014, gdg@zplane.com wrote:
I would like to move this ticket toward resolution. Glenn: Where is the FAQ from which you are quoting? I ask because when I ack the Perl 5 core codebase for "Is there a web archive", I get nothing. And the core codebase is the most that we directly control. The information at lists.perl.org looks up-to-date to me: Thank you very much. -- |
From perl5-porters@perl.orgJames Keenan wrote:
I think he is talking about the information at dev.perl.org, |
From @bulk88On Sun Sep 14 05:44:24 2014, jkeenan wrote:
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I'd say the link is http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl5.porters/ , not http://lists.perl.org/list/perl5-porters.html , since the question is where is the archive, not where is the list. -- |
From gdg@zplane.comJames E Keenan via RT <perlbug-followup@perl.org> [2014-09-14 05:44:25 -0700]:
Let me track down where I got that FAQ from, I'll let you know. Iirc, I think I simply followed the instructions received in the response |
From gdg@zplane.comJames E Keenan via RT <perlbug-followup@perl.org> [2014-09-14 05:44:25 -0700]:
Here's the sequence of events leading to that FAQ: Excerpt from the auto-reply received when I subscribed (which was 09-Aug-2014): ======================================================================= I can handle administrative requests automatically. Please To subscribe to the list, send a message to: To remove your address from the list, send a message to: Send mail to the following for info and FAQ for this list: I then sent a message to <perl5-porters-faq@perl.org> as instructed above, The AUTHORS section gives the 'last updated' date as 2003, so that could Let me know if you need any more info -Glenn ======================================================================= I'm working for my owner, who can be reached NAME Administration Send mail to <perl5-porters-unsubscribe@perl.org>, and await a response. If that doesn't work, find your subscription address - it'll be in the I'm not subscribed - how do I subscribe? Send mail to <perl5-porters-subscribe@perl.org>. To specify How do I retrieve old messages? Every message you get from perl5-porters will have an autogenerated The number in the middle, 5523, is the sequence number. To get the To a range of messages mailed to you in a digest, for instance, the More general help on list management can be retrieved by sending a mail Is there a web archive? Yes, there is, and it's at http://www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing- perl5-porters is too big! Is there a digest? Funny you should mention that. Rafael Garcia-Suarez compiles a weekly . AUTHORS Its primary author was Simon Cozens. It's currently maintained by Rafael |
From gdg@zplane.comAsk Bjoern Hansen via RT <perlbug-followup@perl.org> [2014-08-18 17:00:55 -0700]:
Btw, while I was figuring out where the FAQ came from, I also re-discovered http://lists.perl.org/list/perl5-porters.html (last item). Not sure if this is relevant or not, just giving my rationale for (mis)assuming |
From @jkeenanOn Sun Sep 14 07:51:56 2014, gdg@zplane.com wrote:
I just now subscribed from a new email address and got a reply which looks much like that one. [snip]
I sent an email to perl5-porters-faq@perl.org and got a response that contained "p5pfaq - The perl 5 porters FAQ" as you did. But when I search Perl 5 blead for the string "p5pfaq", I get nothing. So this is a document that either never was part of Perl 5 core or was removed. I suspect this is more of a problem with lists.perl.org than with perl5-porters. -- |
From gdg@zplane.comJames E Keenan via RT <perlbug-followup@perl.org> [2014-09-14 09:10:51 -0700]:
I'm glad it was reproducible, because this has been a monumentally bad week
OK. Is there an action item for me here (e.g., submitting a follow-up ticket to |
From @jkeenanOn Sun Sep 14 09:30:40 2014, gdg@zplane.com wrote:
Following the instructions found here: ... I have just submitted a patch for the JSON data for the perl5-porters list. (I just went through this with a different mailing list, so it was no sweat.) This patch deletes the reference to sending an email to "perl5-porters-faq@perl.org". This won't disable that email address, but it will give us some time to figure out: (a) Do we want a "p5pfaq" at all? (By "p5pfaq" I mean the content of an email that would be sent upon request from the email address above.) (b) If so, what should be its content? In particular, in what way should it be different from 'pod/perlhack.pod' or something already in core? (c) What is the mechanism that generates that email response? Glenn, others: Comments welcome! Thank you very much. |
From @jkeenanperl5.porters.lists.json.diff--- lists.json.old 2014-09-14 16:59:19.239168729 -0400
+++ lists.json 2014-09-14 17:09:21.659156436 -0400
@@ -3604,8 +3604,8 @@
"http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl5.porters"
],
"category" : "Perl",
- "comments" : "P5P has its own FAQ at http://dev.perl.org/perl5/docs/p5p-faq.html or send email to perl5-porters-faq@perl.org to receive a copy via email",
- "date_last_confirmed_active" : "2012-03-19 14:26:54",
+ "comments" : "http://dev.perl.org/perl5/",
+ "date_last_confirmed_active" : "2014-09-14 17:06:11",
"defunct" : "0",
"help" : "send an empty email to mailto: perl5-porters-help@perl.org",
"keywords" : "",
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From @rjbsOn Sun Sep 14 14:22:43 2014, jkeenan wrote:
Yes, but I think we have no such document worth passing out at the moment.
I think we want a high level summary of what goes on on p5p, how to participate, and what to expect. I think it would also be good to again review the way that perlhack and other documents play out for new porters. This is something I'd be happy to help with at YAPC or at some small hackathon, but I can tell you that I don't see myself getting work done on this on my own.
ezmlm, probably. We'd have to coordinate with the list managers. Probably: make sure we have a document worth sharing, then figure out how. :) -- |
From @jkeenanOn Sat, 07 May 2016 00:22:59 GMT, rjbs wrote:
No discussion on this issue for more than three years. Withdrawing. -- |
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