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Id: 1532
Status: resolved
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Requestors: richard [at] rfi.net
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To: perlbugtron [...] perl.org
Subject: Re: [ID...] tmtowtdi new perlbug - please ignore
From: richard [...] rfi.net (Richard Foley)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 20:06:30 +0200
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> On Mon, 20 Sep 1999, Richard Foley wrote:
> > perl
> > Do you know of anyone else getting doubled p5p messages?
-- Richard Foley +49 (0) 8121 988920 -> richard@rfi.net
From: "Moore, Paul" <Paul.Moore [...] uk.origin-it.com>
To: "'Foley, Richard'" <Richard.Foley [...] m.dasa.de>
Cc: "Ask Bjoern Hansen (E-Mail)" <ask [...] valueclick.com>, "Jacob Bro Olesen (E-Mail)" <jacob [...] netcetera.dk>, "Tom Christiansen (E-Mail)" <tchrist [...] jhereg.perl.org>, perl5-porters [...] perl.org
Subject: RE: [ID 19990922.001] tmtowtdi new perlbug
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 14:42:12 +0100
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From: Foley, Richard [mailto:Richard.Foley@m.dasa.de] Show quoted text
> >I'm getting doubled messages - as far as I can see, they're bugtron > >messages. > >Paul.
> Can I ask, is it new bug [ID ...] messages, or replies with > bug [ID ...]s, > or replies without bug [ID ...]s, or any other particular > noticable factor?
The message text & subject is 100% identical. It took me a few goes before I noticed that I hadn't just missed the "delete" button. Only the headers differ. Paul.
From: "Moore, Paul" <Paul.Moore [...] uk.origin-it.com>
To: "'Foley, Richard (E-Mail)'" <richard [...] rfi.net>
Cc: "Ask Bjoern Hansen (E-Mail)" <ask [...] valueclick.com>, "Jacob Bro Olesen (E-Mail)" <jacob [...] netcetera.dk>, "Tom Christiansen (E-Mail)" <tchrist [...] jhereg.perl.org>, perl5-porters [...] perl.org
Subject: RE: [ID 19990922.001] tmtowtdi new perlbug
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 15:43:18 +0100
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From: Foley, Richard [mailto:Richard.Foley@m.dasa.de] Show quoted text
> Sorry, what I mean is, the messages that are doubled, do they have any > outstanding peculiarities?
Ah, I see. I didn't notice anything particular. I'll keep an eye out from now on... (I think they were all bugtron messages - new or replies - but I'm not sure as my filtering isn't that sophisticated, and my brain definitely isn't :-) Paul.
From: "Moore, Paul" <Paul.Moore [...] uk.origin-it.com>
To: "'Foley, Richard (E-Mail)'" <richard [...] rfi.net>
Cc: "Ask Bjoern Hansen (E-Mail)" <ask [...] valueclick.com>, "Jacob Bro Olesen (E-Mail)" <jacob [...] netcetera.dk>, "Tom Christiansen (E-Mail)" <tchrist [...] jhereg.perl.org>, perl5-porters [...] perl.org
Subject: RE: [ID 19990922.001] tmtowtdi new perlbug
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 13:01:01 +0100
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From: Foley, Richard [mailto:Richard.Foley@m.dasa.de] Show quoted text
> Sorry, what I mean is, the messages that are doubled, do they have any > outstanding peculiarities?
Perlbug overviews are being consistently doubled. But I just got a general P5P posting which was doubled, as well, so it's not a purely perlbug-related problem. But if there is something unusual in the perlbug messages which is not shared by all (just some) P5P traffic, this may be tickling a bug in the mailing list software. But it is very frequent, and very irritating (especially as it seems to be mostly perlbug messages, which are on my "brief look and delete" list :-) Paul.
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Cc: jacob [...] netcetera.dk (Jacob Bro Olesen), gnat [...] frii.com, Paul.Moore [...] uk.origin-it.com (Moore, Paul), gbarr [...] pobox.com (Graham Barr), perl5-porters [...] perl.org (p5p)
Subject: HELP: [ID 19990922.001] -> perlbug double messages
From: richard [...] rfi.net (Richard Foley)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 20:35:41 +0200
All, Please excuse the scream at the top, but I'm sure everyone else is as sick with these double messages as I am hearing about them, time to wave a flag... Now then, please bear with me here, I'm not an email/mailing list guru (has anybody noticed... :-), but I've a couple of mail headers that I'd like to run past those more experienced than I. Below are two message headers from a single call to the bugtron robot, (we'll bundle perlbugtron and bugdb together for now), with a single output address of 'ref@rfi.net'. Predictably this generated two separate messages. OK, the bugtron wants to send out a message to 'ref@rfi.net', and calls the appropriate Internet:(GBarr - hence the current cc):Mail module to do so and disappears assuming the single mail has been sent. Strangely, two messages are recieved, they are both almost identical (Message-Id (<19990924154902.7263.qmail@tmtowtdi.perl.org>) and To (richard@tmtowtdi.perl.org), with no Cc or Bcc lines in sight. Where does the duplicate message come from...? Having a closer look at the message headers _may_ help: The original bugtron process 7258, (with a uid of 511), calls the original qmail process 7264, (in both message1 and message2). All of a sudden we have two more process ids: 7270 and 7272 to handle the single email message! Why? Is qmail confused, has it recieved a hidden instruction, does anyone have any ideas why the apparent 'fork'? 1. Received: (qmail 7270 invoked by uid 511); 24 Sep 1999 15:49:02 -0000 Delivered-To: richard@tmtowtdi.perl.org Received: (qmail 7264 invoked by uid 511); 24 Sep 1999 15:49:02 -0000 2. Received: (qmail 7272 invoked by uid 511); 24 Sep 1999 15:49:02 -0000 Delivered-To: richard@tmtowtdi.perl.org Received: (qmail 7264 invoked by uid 511); 24 Sep 1999 15:49:02 -0000 Here are the complete message headers: 1. Received: from 206.161.225.148 [206.161.225.148] by in5.prserv.net id 938188147.52244-1 ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 15:49:07 +0000 Received: from digiweb.com (smtp [206.161.225.112]) by relaysmtp.digiweb.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA13419; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 11:49:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tmtowtdi.perl.org (qmailr@tmtowtdi.perl.org [209.85.3.25]) by digiweb.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA29451 for <richard@rfi.net>; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 11:49:03 -0400 (EDT) Mail-For: <richard@rfi.net> Received: (qmail 7270 invoked by uid 511); 24 Sep 1999 15:49:02 -0000 Delivered-To: richard@tmtowtdi.perl.org Received: (qmail 7264 invoked by uid 511); 24 Sep 1999 15:49:02 -0000 Date: 24 Sep 1999 15:49:02 -0000 Message-ID: <19990924154902.7263.qmail@tmtowtdi.perl.org> Subject: perl bugdb response: -T 19990725.001 -d 2 -L -e ref@rfi.net To: richard@tmtowtdi.perl.org Reply-To: bugdb@perl.org From: bugdb@perl.org X-Loop: perlbug@perl.org This is an automatic response from the Perl bug database: (U 1 7258 /home/richard/bugs/scripts/pb_db_int.pl) Your mail:-T 19990725.001 -d 2 -L -e ref@rfi.net xxx Results: <snip> 2. Received: from 206.161.225.148 [206.161.225.148] by in5.prserv.net id 938188147.88350-1 ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 15:49:07 +0000 Received: from digiweb.com (smtp [206.161.225.112]) by relaysmtp.digiweb.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA13421; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 11:49:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tmtowtdi.perl.org (qmailr@tmtowtdi.perl.org [209.85.3.25]) by digiweb.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA29453 for <richard@rfi.net>; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 11:49:03 -0400 (EDT) Mail-For: <richard@rfi.net> Received: (qmail 7272 invoked by uid 511); 24 Sep 1999 15:49:02 -0000 Delivered-To: richard@tmtowtdi.perl.org Received: (qmail 7264 invoked by uid 511); 24 Sep 1999 15:49:02 -0000 Date: 24 Sep 1999 15:49:02 -0000 Message-ID: <19990924154902.7263.qmail@tmtowtdi.perl.org> Subject: perl bugdb response: -T 19990725.001 -d 2 -L -e ref@rfi.net To: richard@tmtowtdi.perl.org Reply-To: bugdb@perl.org From: bugdb@perl.org X-Loop: perlbug@perl.org This is an automatic response from the Perl bug database: (U 1 7258 /home/richard/bugs/scripts/pb_db_int.pl) Your mail:-T 19990725.001 -d 2 -L -e ref@rfi.net xxx Results: <snip> All suggestions welcome Ciao -- Richard Foley +49 (0) 8121 988920 -> richard@rfi.net


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