From @szabgab

I think it would be better to have the list returned by ^methods
sorted in abc order.

From @LLFourn

Str.^methods.sort(*.name)

Is easy enough once you know to do it :)
I don't think we should specify a particular order for the returned methods
and alphabetic sorting is kinda arbitrary. Why not sorted by class
inheritance for example?

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I think it would be better to have the list returned by ^methods
sorted in abc order.

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From @szabgab

I think the question when would ^methods be used?

Would it be used by people who use the REPL to experiment with the
languages? In that case the listing should be as user friendly as
possible and require as little typing as possible. Having ABC order is
IMHO the easiest to look through.

(e.g. in python it is dir(object) )

If there was some other, even easier way to get this list, that would
be even better.

On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 7​:26 AM, Lloyd Fournier via RT
<perl6-bugs-followup@​perl.org> wrote​:

Str.^methods.sort(*.name)

Is easy enough once you know to do it :)
I don't think we should specify a particular order for the returned methods
and alphabetic sorting is kinda arbitrary. Why not sorted by class
inheritance for example?

On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 2​:09 PM Gabor Szabo <perl6-bugs-followup@​perl.org>
wrote​:

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I think it would be better to have the list returned by ^methods
sorted in abc order.

From @geekosaur

On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 12​:41 AM, Gabor Szabo <szabgab@​gmail.com> wrote​:

Would it be used by people who use the REPL to experiment with the
languages? In that case the listing should be as user friendly as
possible and require as little typing as possible. Having ABC order is
IMHO the easiest to look through.

If we're going to provide that ability, it should probably not be done via
the metaobject interface. Relying on that can get you surprises, in
particular quite a few anonymous methods for various things with low level
implementations (and other surprises if you dig deeper and it's implemented
in nqp).

(dir() in python is a different issue, since as far as python is concerned
it's just listing the keys in some dict, and sorting them would usually be
desirable. That said dict happens to represent an object is irrelevant.)

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