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Subject: [LTA] Download Page on Rakudo.org
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See https://irclog.perlgeek.de/perl6-dev/2017-01-04#i_13854039 We had a user who's using rakudobrew because from the download page they thought that's the easiest way to use Perl 6. We probably should download Rakudobrew and promote Rakudo Star more (see also stmuk's comments in that log that having two lists of instructions on rakudo.org and perl6.org is just doubling the workload)
By "download Rakudobrew" I meant "downplay"
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No, we should remove the mention of rakudobrew. Core developers - who are the target audience of this tool - already know about its existence. Ordinary users are more often harmed than helped. While we're at it, we should also change the blanket recommendation to install rakudo from source on Linux. Right now at least Fedora and openSUSE contain packages of rakudo's 2017.05 release, soon to be updated to 2017.06. Other Linux distributions are probably at the same stage. Of course there are some which ship years old packages. For those the install from source option is very good advice. But not for e.g. an openSUSE user wanting to give Perl 6 a quick try.
El_Che's packages are available too at https://github.com/nxadm/rakudo-pkg/releases
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I updated the page and this issue is now resolved: http://rakudo.org/how-to-get-rakudo/ - Remove rakudobrew instructions - List pre-built Linux packages - Add Deprecated/Discouraged section and list both rakudobrew and panda in it - Add links to Rakudo Star modules - Mention the Rakudo Star modules aren't mandatory to install - Remove all prose about core hacking on Rakudo; this type of users can install from the instructions in the repo instead; the rakudobrew prose mentions my build-bleed-from-source script: https://github.com/zoffixznet/r#table-of-contents - Basically Rakudo Star is now presented as the One True Way to get Rakudo, with the exception of Linux packages where it just mentions you don't have to install all of Rakudo Star's modules.
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2017 13:19:00 +0100
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Subject: Re: [perl #130500] [LTA] Download Page on Rakudo.org
From: Steve Mynott <steve.mynott [...] gmail.com>
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That looks better thanks! One suggestion might be to remove the 32 bit windows MSI link (part of a 2x2 matrix of links) since its not being actively maintained and the last one dates from 2016.01. Of course part of the problem with doing this is that it doesn't really fit in with 2x2 so maybe 1x3. S On 3 September 2017 at 01:41, Zoffix Znet via RT <perl6-bugs-followup@perl.org> wrote: Show quoted text
> I updated the page and this issue is now resolved: http://rakudo.org/how-to-get-rakudo/ > > - Remove rakudobrew instructions > - List pre-built Linux packages > - Add Deprecated/Discouraged section and list both rakudobrew and panda in it > - Add links to Rakudo Star modules > - Mention the Rakudo Star modules aren't mandatory to install > - Remove all prose about core hacking on Rakudo; this type of users can install > from the instructions in the repo instead; the rakudobrew prose mentions > my build-bleed-from-source script: https://github.com/zoffixznet/r#table-of-contents > - Basically Rakudo Star is now presented as the One True Way to get Rakudo, with the > exception of Linux packages where it just mentions you don't have to install all > of Rakudo Star's modules.
-- 4096R/EA75174B Steve Mynott <steve.mynott@gmail.com>


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