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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 14:39:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Larry W. Virden" <lvirden [...] cas.org>
To: perlbug [...] perl.com
Subject: perl 5.005_58 vs existing perl modules
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----------------------------------------------------------------- [Please enter your report here] I don't know whether this latest release is supposed to be compatible or not with previous releases. But here's the behavior I am seeing: $ cat $(whence cpan) #!/vol/lwv26ldatae/bin/perl eval 'exec /vol/lwv26ldatae/bin/perl -S $0 ${1+"$@"}' if 0; # not running under some shell use CPAN; shell; $ cpan Use of uninitialized value at (eval 3) line 16, <TERMCAP> line 1931. Use of uninitialized value at /vol/lwv26ldatae/lib/perl5/5.005/Term/Cap.pm line 284. Use of uninitialized value at /vol/lwv26ldatae/lib/perl5/5.005/Term/Cap.pm line 284. cpan shell -- CPAN exploration and modules installation (v1.50) ReadLine support available (try ``install Bundle::CPAN'') Show quoted text
cpan> install Term::Cap
defined(@array) is deprecated at /vol/lwv26ldatae/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/sun4-solaris/Net/Cmd.pm line 57, <FIN> line 1. (Maybe you should just omit the defined()?) CPAN: Net::FTP loaded ok Fetching with Net::FTP: ftp://ftp.perl.org/pub/perl/CPAN/authors/01mailrc.txt.gz Going to read /home/lwv26/.cpan/sources/authors/01mailrc.txt.gz ld.so.1: /vol/lwv26ldatae/bin/perl: fatal: relocation error: file /vol/lwv26ldatae/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/sun4-solaris/auto/Compress/Zlib/Zlib.so: symbol perl_get_sv: referenced symbol not found Killed It looks like there is some sort of incompatibility along the way... [Please do not change anything below this line] ----------------------------------------------------------------- --- Site configuration information for perl 5.00558: Configured by lwv26 at Thu Jul 29 13:04:09 EDT 1999. Summary of my perl5 (revision 5.0 version 5 subversion 58) configuration: Platform: osname=solaris, osvers=2.6, archname=sun4-solaris uname='sunos lwv26awu 5.6 generic_105181-14 sun4u sparc sunw,ultra-5_10 ' config_args='' hint=previous, useposix=true, d_sigaction=define usethreads=undef useperlio=undef d_sfio=undef use64bits=undef usemultiplicity=undef Compiler: cc='cc', optimize='-O', gccversion= cppflags='-DDEBUGGING -I/projects/gnu/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/include -I/vol/lwv26ldatae/include -I/usr/ccs/include -I/usr/include' ccflags ='-DDEBUGGING -I/projects/gnu/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/include -I/vol/lwv26ldatae/include -I/usr/ccs/include -I/usr/include' stdchar='unsigned char', d_stdstdio=define, usevfork=false intsize=4, longsize=4, ptrsize=4, doublesize=8 d_longlong=define, longlongsize=8, d_longdbl=define, longdblsize=16 alignbytes=8, usemymalloc=y, prototype=define Linker and Libraries: ld='cc', ldflags ='-L/projects/gnu/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/lib -L/vol/lwv26ldatae/lib -L/usr/ccs/lib -R/projects/gnu/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/lib:/vol/lwv26ldatae/lib:/usr/ccs/lib' libpth=/projects/gnu/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/lib /vol/lwv26ldatae/lib /usr/ccs/lib /usr/lib libs=-lsocket -lnsl -lgdbm -ldb -ldl -lm -lc -lcrypt libc=/lib/libc.so, so=so, useshrplib=false, libperl=libperl.a Dynamic Linking: dlsrc=dl_dlopen.xs, dlext=so, d_dlsymun=undef, ccdlflags=' ' cccdlflags='-KPIC', lddlflags='-R/projects/gnu/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/lib:/vol/lwv26ldatae/lib:/usr/ccs/lib -G -L/projects/gnu/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/lib -L/vol/lwv26ldatae/lib -L/usr/ccs/lib' Locally applied patches: --- @INC for perl 5.00558: /home/lwv26/lib/perl5/ /projects/sprs_lwv/lib/perl5/ /vol/lwv26ldatae/lib/perl5/5.005/sun4-solaris /vol/lwv26ldatae/lib/perl5/5.005 /vol/lwv26ldatae/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/sun4-solaris /vol/lwv26ldatae/lib/site_perl . --- Environment for perl 5.00558: HOME=/home/lwv26 LANG=C LANGUAGE (unset) LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/lprod/cas/lib:/usr/dt/lib:/usr/openwin/lib:/usr/lib LOGDIR (unset) PATH=/opt/SUNWspro/bin:/ldatae/bin:/projects/sprs_lwv/sol26/bin:/projects/sprs_lwv/sol26/bin/mime:/projects/sprs_lwv/sol2/bin:/projects/sprs_lwv/bin:/projects/sprs_lwv/bin/mime:/home/lwv26/bin/D.news:/usr/perl5/bin:/projects/gnu/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/bin:/usr/tcl80/pd/sun4/bin:/usr/tcl80/pd/bin:/usr/tcl80/sun4/bin:/usr/tcl80/bin:/projects/xopsrc/sun4/bin:/projects/xopsrc/bin:/usr/atria/bin:/projects/intranet/bin:/projects/clearcase/bin:/vol/tclsrcsol/TclPro1.2/solaris-sparc/bin:/ldata2/teTeX/bin/sparc-sun-solaris2.6:/usr/tcl81/sun4/bin:/usr/tcl81/bin:/ldata/bin:/home/lwv26/bin/D.aws:/home/lwv26/bin/sol2:/home/lwv26/bin/D.frontend:/home/lwv26/bin/D.ksh:/cas/test/bin/sun4:/projects/sprs_lwv/bin/sol2:/usr/java1.2/bin:/home/lwv26/bin/sun4:/lprod/cas/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/dt/bin:/usr/openwin/bin:/bin:/cas/bin/sun4:/cas/abin/sun4:/cas/X11/sun4/bin:/usr/ccs/bin:/uprod/bin:/usr/sbin:/cas/tools/bin/sun4:/cas/X11/sun4/tools/bin:/usr/ucb:/home/lwv26/bin:/cas/tools/pdbin/sun4:/home/l! wv26/bin/D.mistypes:/home/lwv26/bin/D.toys:/home/lwv26/bin/D.tools:/projects/npd/npdweb/bin-sol2 PERL5LIB=/home/lwv26/lib/perl5/:/projects/sprs_lwv/lib/perl5/: PERLDOC=-t PERLLIB=/home/lwv26/lib/perl:/projects/sprs_lwv/lib/perl: PERL_BADLANG (unset) SHELL=/bin/ksh
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:07:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Larry W. Virden" <lvirden [...] cas.org>
Subject: Re: [ID 19990729.007] perl 5.005_58 vs existing perl modules
To: Gurusamy Sarathy <gsar [...] activestate.com>
Cc: lvirden [...] cas.org, perl5-porters [...] perl.org, jhi [...] iki.fi
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> On Thu, 29 Jul 1999 14:39:13 EDT, "Larry W. Virden" wrote:
> >I don't know whether this latest release is supposed to be compatible or > >not with previous releases.
> > perldelta.pod is your friend.
Hmm - so it is. I guess I am surprised by the behavior in Configure though. In the past, when there was a break in binary compatibility, a different directory was presented as the default by Configure. When I didn't get that prompt, I assumed (yes, bad to do ... sorry) that things were continuing to be compatible. To date, this release was the first in the 5.005_5x series that demonstrated the difference. Show quoted text
>>$ cpan >>Use of uninitialized value at (eval 3) line 16, <TERMCAP> line 1931. >>Use of uninitialized value at /vol/lwv26ldatae/lib/perl5/5.005/Term/Cap.pm lin >>e 284. >>Use of uninitialized value at /vol/lwv26ldatae/lib/perl5/5.005/Term/Cap.pm lin >>e 284.
> >Were these warnings emitted by previous versions too?
No, they were not. Show quoted text
> > ftp://ftp.perl.org/pub/perl/CPAN/authors/01mailrc.txt.gz > >Going to read /home/lwv26/.cpan/sources/authors/01mailrc.txt.gz > >ld.so.1: /vol/lwv26ldatae/bin/perl: fatal: relocation error: file /vol/lwv26ld > >atae/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/sun4-solaris/auto/Compress/Zlib/Zlib.so: symbol
> ^^^^^ > > You'll need to enable PERL_BINCOMPAT_5005 as perldelta.pod suggests. > (Jarkko: This needs to be a Configure flag that defaults to on.) > > Beware that 5.005_5x can only hope to be binary compatible with 5.005 > extensions when your are making a plain-vanilla-no-doodads-whatsoever > build. If you ask for MULTIPLICITY or USE_THREADS, you're out of luck.
It's a shame Configure can not detect that special case (as far as I am aware, I've not asked for either of these) and prompt the configurer to use a different directory structure... -- Larry W. Virden <URL: mailto:lvirden@cas.org> <URL: http://www.purl.org/NET/lvirden/> <*> O- "No one is what he seems." Unless explicitly stated to the contrary, nothing in this posting should be construed as representing my employer's opinions. -><-
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Cc: perl5-porters [...] perl.org, jhi [...] iki.fi
Subject: Re: [ID 19990729.007] perl 5.005_58 vs existing perl modules
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:56:23 -0700
From: Gurusamy Sarathy <gsar [...] activestate.com>
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On Thu, 29 Jul 1999 14:39:13 EDT, "Larry W. Virden" wrote: Show quoted text
>I don't know whether this latest release is supposed to be compatible or >not with previous releases.
perldelta.pod is your friend. Show quoted text
> But here's the behavior I am seeing: > >$ cat $(whence cpan) >#!/vol/lwv26ldatae/bin/perl > >eval 'exec /vol/lwv26ldatae/bin/perl -S $0 ${1+"$@"}' > if 0; # not running under some shell > >use CPAN; >shell; > >$ cpan >Use of uninitialized value at (eval 3) line 16, <TERMCAP> line 1931. >Use of uninitialized value at /vol/lwv26ldatae/lib/perl5/5.005/Term/Cap.pm lin >e 284. >Use of uninitialized value at /vol/lwv26ldatae/lib/perl5/5.005/Term/Cap.pm lin >e 284.
Were these warnings emitted by previous versions too? Show quoted text
>cpan shell -- CPAN exploration and modules installation (v1.50) >ReadLine support available (try ``install Bundle::CPAN'') >
>cpan> install Term::Cap
>defined(@array) is deprecated at /vol/lwv26ldatae/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/su >n4-solaris/Net/Cmd.pm line 57, <FIN> line 1. >(Maybe you should just omit the defined()?)
Seems to be a problem in Net::Cmd. Show quoted text
>CPAN: Net::FTP loaded ok >Fetching with Net::FTP: > ftp://ftp.perl.org/pub/perl/CPAN/authors/01mailrc.txt.gz >Going to read /home/lwv26/.cpan/sources/authors/01mailrc.txt.gz >ld.so.1: /vol/lwv26ldatae/bin/perl: fatal: relocation error: file /vol/lwv26ld >atae/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/sun4-solaris/auto/Compress/Zlib/Zlib.so: symbol
^^^^^ You'll need to enable PERL_BINCOMPAT_5005 as perldelta.pod suggests. (Jarkko: This needs to be a Configure flag that defaults to on.) Beware that 5.005_5x can only hope to be binary compatible with 5.005 extensions when your are making a plain-vanilla-no-doodads-whatsoever build. If you ask for MULTIPLICITY or USE_THREADS, you're out of luck. Sarathy gsar@activestate.com
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Cc: Gurusamy Sarathy <gsar [...] activestate.com>, lvirden [...] cas.org, perl5-porters [...] perl.org
Subject: Re: [ID 19990729.007] perl 5.005_58 vs existing perl modules
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 12:35:22 -0700
From: Gurusamy Sarathy <gsar [...] activestate.com>
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On Thu, 29 Jul 1999 22:23:32 +0300, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: Show quoted text
> > You'll need to enable PERL_BINCOMPAT_5005 as perldelta.pod suggests. > > (Jarkko: This needs to be a Configure flag that defaults to on.)
> >Come again? A "Configure flag"? Do you mean there should be >a question like "You wanna binary compatibility with 5.005? [y] " >the answer to which ends up in $Config{bincompat5005}?
Yes. Sarathy gsar@activestate.com
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:26:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Larry W. Virden" <lvirden [...] cas.org>
Subject: Re: [ID 19990729.007] perl 5.005_58 vs existing perl modules
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Okay, after reading the perldelta.pod, I tried editing my config.sh to include the -DPERL_BINCOMPAT_5005 -DPERL_POLLUTE flags. I then did a Configure -der and a make. The results I get are interesting: /usr/ccs/bin/ar rcu libperl.a perl.o malloc.o gv.o toke.o perly.o op.o regcomp.o dump.o util.o mg.o hv.o av.o run.o pp_hot.o sv.o pp.o scope.o pp_ctl.o pp_sys.o doop.o doio.o regexec.o utf8.o taint.o deb.o universal.o globals.o perlio.o cc -L/projects/gnu/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/lib -L/vol/lwv26ldatae/lib -L/usr/ccs/l ib -R/projects/gnu/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/lib:/vol/lwv26ldatae/lib:/usr/ccs/lib -o miniperl miniperlmain.o libperl.a -lsocket -lnsl -lgdbm -ldb -ldl -lm -lc -lcry pt ./miniperl -w -Ilib -MExporter -e 0 || make minitest Bus Error - core dumped make[1]: Entering directory `/ldatae/gnu/perl5.005_58' You may see some irrelevant test failures if you have been unable to build lib/Config.pm. cd t && (rm -f perl; /bin/ln -s ../miniperl perl) \ && ./perl TEST base/*.t comp/*.t cmd/*.t io/*.t op/*.t pragma/*.t </dev /tty Bus Error - core dumped make[1]: [minitest] Error 138 (ignored) make[1]: Leaving directory `/ldatae/gnu/perl5.005_58' ./miniperl configpm configpm.tmp make: *** [lib/Config.pm] Bus Error (core dumped) -- Larry W. Virden <URL: mailto:lvirden@cas.org> <URL: http://www.purl.org/NET/lvirden/> <*> O- "No one is what he seems." Unless explicitly stated to the contrary, nothing in this posting should be construed as representing my employer's opinions. -><-
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 22:23:32 +0300 (EET DST)
To: Gurusamy Sarathy <gsar [...] activestate.com>
Cc: lvirden [...] cas.org, perl5-porters [...] perl.org, jhi [...] iki.fi
Subject: Re: [ID 19990729.007] perl 5.005_58 vs existing perl modules
From: Jarkko Hietaniemi <jhi [...] iki.fi>
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Gurusamy Sarathy writes: Show quoted text
> >CPAN: Net::FTP loaded ok > >Fetching with Net::FTP: > > ftp://ftp.perl.org/pub/perl/CPAN/authors/01mailrc.txt.gz > >Going to read /home/lwv26/.cpan/sources/authors/01mailrc.txt.gz > >ld.so.1: /vol/lwv26ldatae/bin/perl: fatal: relocation error: file /vol/lwv26ld > >atae/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/sun4-solaris/auto/Compress/Zlib/Zlib.so: symbol
> ^^^^^ > > You'll need to enable PERL_BINCOMPAT_5005 as perldelta.pod suggests. > (Jarkko: This needs to be a Configure flag that defaults to on.)
Come again? A "Configure flag"? Do you mean there should be a question like "You wanna binary compatibility with 5.005? [y] " the answer to which ends up in $Config{bincompat5005}? Show quoted text
> Beware that 5.005_5x can only hope to be binary compatible with 5.005 > extensions when your are making a plain-vanilla-no-doodads-whatsoever > build. If you ask for MULTIPLICITY or USE_THREADS, you're out of luck. > > > Sarathy > gsar@activestate.com
-- $jhi++; # http://www.iki.fi/jhi/ # There is this special biologist word we use for 'stable'. # It is 'dead'. -- Jack Cohen
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 22:38:19 +0300 (EET DST)
To: Gurusamy Sarathy <gsar [...] activestate.com>
Cc: jhi [...] iki.fi, lvirden [...] cas.org, perl5-porters [...] perl.org
Subject: Re: [ID 19990729.007] perl 5.005_58 vs existing perl modules
From: Jarkko Hietaniemi <jhi [...] iki.fi>
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Gurusamy Sarathy writes: Show quoted text
> On Thu, 29 Jul 1999 22:23:32 +0300, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote:
> > > You'll need to enable PERL_BINCOMPAT_5005 as perldelta.pod suggests. > > > (Jarkko: This needs to be a Configure flag that defaults to on.)
> > > >Come again? A "Configure flag"? Do you mean there should be > >a question like "You wanna binary compatibility with 5.005? [y] " > >the answer to which ends up in $Config{bincompat5005}?
> > Yes.
Does the sesquipedalian -DPERL_BINCOMPAT_5005 have to go to ccflags? Isn't some shameful shady corner of config.h enough? -- $jhi++; # http://www.iki.fi/jhi/ # There is this special biologist word we use for 'stable'. # It is 'dead'. -- Jack Cohen
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 23:29:34 +0300 (EET DST)
To: Ilya Zakharevich <ilya [...] math.ohio-state.edu>
Cc: perl5-porters [...] perl.org
Subject: Re: [ID 19990729.007] perl 5.005_58 vs existing perl modules
From: Jarkko Hietaniemi <jhi [...] iki.fi>
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Ilya Zakharevich writes: Show quoted text
> Jarkko Hietaniemi writes:
> > > >Come again? A "Configure flag"? Do you mean there should be > > > >a question like "You wanna binary compatibility with 5.005? [y] " > > > >the answer to which ends up in $Config{bincompat5005}?
> > > > > > Yes.
> > > > Does the sesquipedalian -DPERL_BINCOMPAT_5005 have to go to ccflags? > > Isn't some shameful shady corner of config.h enough?
> > There should be -D add_ccflags=... option to Configure.
There is. It's called -Dccflags. All that gets prepended to your ccflags-- unless your hints file does naughty things like ccflags="-blah" instead of ccflags="$ccflags -blah" -- $jhi++; # http://www.iki.fi/jhi/ # There is this special biologist word we use for 'stable'. # It is 'dead'. -- Jack Cohen
From: Ilya Zakharevich <ilya [...] math.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Re: [ID 19990729.007] perl 5.005_58 vs existing perl modules
To: jhi [...] iki.fi
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 16:23:31 -0400 (EDT)
Cc: gsar [...] activestate.com (Gurusamy Sarathy), lvirden [...] cas.org, perl5-porters [...] perl.org
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Jarkko Hietaniemi writes: Show quoted text
> > >Come again? A "Configure flag"? Do you mean there should be > > >a question like "You wanna binary compatibility with 5.005? [y] " > > >the answer to which ends up in $Config{bincompat5005}?
> > > > Yes.
> > Does the sesquipedalian -DPERL_BINCOMPAT_5005 have to go to ccflags? > Isn't some shameful shady corner of config.h enough?
There should be -D add_ccflags=... option to Configure. Ilya
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:22:35 +0300 (EET DST)
To: Ilya Zakharevich <ilya [...] math.ohio-state.edu>
Cc: Jarkko Hietaniemi <jhi [...] iki.fi>, perl5-porters [...] perl.org
Subject: Re: [ID 19990729.007] perl 5.005_58 vs existing perl modules
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Ilya Zakharevich writes: Show quoted text
> On Thu, Jul 29, 1999 at 11:29:34PM +0300, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote:
> > There is. It's called -Dccflags. All that gets prepended to your > > ccflags-- unless your hints file does naughty things like > > > > ccflags="-blah" > > > > instead of > > > > ccflags="$ccflags -blah"
> > How would you *change* ccflags then? I
In hints files you mean? sed, basically. Show quoted text
> grep ccflags= * > > in ./hints, and see both styles prolific there. It should be possible
Yes, I know. That's a sin of the hints file writers. Show quoted text
> to do it both ways.
Well, *sometimes* the hints file writer is right in clobbering the old value of a setting. Just checking that we are on the same page: you are suggesting a Configure -Dthing that would append something to ccflags after the hints file has been processed? -- $jhi++; # http://www.iki.fi/jhi/ # There is this special biologist word we use for 'stable'. # It is 'dead'. -- Jack Cohen
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 17:12:10 -0400
From: Ilya Zakharevich <ilya [...] math.ohio-state.edu>
To: Jarkko Hietaniemi <jhi [...] iki.fi>
Cc: perl5-porters [...] perl.org
Subject: Re: [ID 19990729.007] perl 5.005_58 vs existing perl modules
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On Thu, Jul 29, 1999 at 11:29:34PM +0300, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: Show quoted text
> There is. It's called -Dccflags. All that gets prepended to your > ccflags-- unless your hints file does naughty things like > > ccflags="-blah" > > instead of > > ccflags="$ccflags -blah"
How would you *change* ccflags then? I grep ccflags= * in ./hints, and see both styles prolific there. It should be possible to do it both ways. Ilya
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 17:52:43 -0400
From: Ilya Zakharevich <ilya [...] math.ohio-state.edu>
To: Jarkko Hietaniemi <jhi [...] iki.fi>
Cc: perl5-porters [...] perl.org
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On Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 12:22:35AM +0300, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: Show quoted text
> > > There is. It's called -Dccflags. All that gets prepended to your > > > ccflags-- unless your hints file does naughty things like > > > > > > ccflags="-blah" > > > > > > instead of > > > > > > ccflags="$ccflags -blah"
> > > > How would you *change* ccflags then? I
> > In hints files you mean? sed, basically.
No. How would you *replace* ccflags from Configure command line? Show quoted text
> > grep ccflags= * > > > > in ./hints, and see both styles prolific there. It should be possible
> > Yes, I know. That's a sin of the hints file writers.
I do not think so. We cannot require people follow non-existing suggestions. Where is it written which flags are appended/prepended/replaced? Show quoted text
> Just checking that we are on the same page: you are suggesting > a Configure -Dthing that would append something to ccflags > after the hints file has been processed?
Given the amound of hints/*.sh files which append/prepend ccflags, it is probably not needed - just fix those which do not do this. However, in the future one may need to have an "overwrite_ccflags" option. Probably Configure could recognize any "overwrite_*" option. BTW, yesterday I realized how useful may be mv_if_different when extracting .SH files. This may remove a redundant recompilation. Ilya
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:14:25 +0300 (EET DST)
To: Ilya Zakharevich <ilya [...] math.ohio-state.edu>
Cc: Jarkko Hietaniemi <jhi [...] iki.fi>, perl5-porters [...] perl.org
Subject: Re: [ID 19990729.007] perl 5.005_58 vs existing perl modules
From: Jarkko Hietaniemi <jhi [...] iki.fi>
Ilya Zakharevich writes: Show quoted text
> > In hints files you mean? sed, basically.
> > No. How would you *replace* ccflags from Configure command line?
You mean ignore completely what the hints file says? Show quoted text
> > > grep ccflags= * > > > > > > in ./hints, and see both styles prolific there. It should be possible
> > > > Yes, I know. That's a sin of the hints file writers.
> > I do not think so. We cannot require people follow non-existing > suggestions. Where is it written which flags are appended/prepended/replaced?
INSTALL: =head2 Other Compiler Flags For most users, all of the Configure defaults are fine. However, you can change a number of factors in the way perl is built by adding appropriate -D directives to your ccflags variable in config.sh. You should also run Configure interactively to verify that a hint file doesn't inadvertently override your ccflags setting. (Hints files shouldn't do that, but some might.) -- $jhi++; # http://www.iki.fi/jhi/ # There is this special biologist word we use for 'stable'. # It is 'dead'. -- Jack Cohen


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