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Requestors: merlyn [at] stonehenge.com
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To: "David Grove" <pete [...] petes-place.com>
Cc: "Perl5-Porters [...] Perl. Org" <perl5-porters [...] perl.org>
Subject: Re: Ugly little beastie
From: merlyn [...] stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
Date: 04 Apr 2000 05:54:12 -0700
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>>>>> "David" == David Grove <pete@petes-place.com> writes:
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David> Clear: 5.6 was released too soon, with many features unfinished David> or unstable. Even Tom (intermingled with other, shall we say, David> somewhat bigotrous statements, and immodest, irrelevant David> commentary) and Sarathy have said this in clear words. Others David> have admitted this, and questioned it, as well, but I think the David> statements of these two are enough.
If this is the basis for your following arguments, you built your house of cards on a wobbly card-table, which Larry has already walked by and bumped. Poof. It can always be said for any release of Open Source software that it has arguably "many features unfinished or unstable". Wait, strike that -- let's just say "software". What's important is the ratio between that list and the list of "finished and stable" features. In this case, I think you can agree that 5.6.0 fixes and enhances *far more* than it breaks. A net win. So just don't use the bleeding edge "experimental" features in production code. You won't miss them, because they *really* didn't exist in 5.5.3. You see conspiracy where none exists. I know Sarathy. Met him on a few occasions, and he's clearly a straight-up guy. He's also doing the world a big favor by having been the 5.6.0 pumpking. You have an "anti-MS" bone to pick, but don't jab it in this direction because of some money changing hands between MS and AS. I know that neither Sarathy nor Larry would allow such unethical behavior. I trust their judgement implicitly (and explicitly) on this point. If you got to know the two of them, you'd agree. I'm pretty sure that a man of Sarathy's stature and skillset would quit and go work for someone else before being pressured to do anything around a public Perl release. (Aside: I recognize your irrational zeal about anti-MS, because I've had the opportunity to watch hundreds of anti-Intel people come out of the closet around me because of my ongoing legal battles. It's amazing what someone is willing to disbelieve when they have an agenda.) Now all of this may have just informed you that I'm merely a member of the conspiracy. In that case, you are paranoid and you should know that your comments are unwelcome here and will probably be discounted now and in the future. However, I hope that in the calmness of your own private time, you can begin to understand that 5.6.0 came out when it did at the appropriate time, and no coersive influence from MS or AS management had any part in the decision. You may now go find other windmills at which to tilt.


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